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Bilstein
2005 Porsche 911 Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Bilstein - B4 Series OE Replacement Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-1FF5932    22-113337  New

996 343 041 29 , 996 343 041 41 , VNE-B333 , 996 343 041 17 , 996 343 041 19 , 996 343 041 16 , 996 343 041 22 , F4-VNE-B333-H0 , 996 343 041 38 , 996 343 041 18 , 22113337 , 996 343 041 21

Qty:
$304.00
  • B4 OE Replacement-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • w/0 in. Lift/Drop; w/Sport Suspension
  • B4 Series OE Replacement Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: No
    • Finish: Black Paint
    • Internal Design: Twintube
    • Lower Mount Type: Base Cup
    • Series: B4 Oe Replacement
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B4 OE Replacement dampers are specifically engineered to be the best choice for maintaining the original ride quality of your vehicle, while meeting or exceeding OE standards. These dampers are the ideal choice for the driver looking to restore the original performance and handling of their vehicle, with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
  • Suggested Purchase Quantity: 2
    • Most jobs typically require 2 of this item.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Submodel Position
2005 - Porsche 911 Carrera Front
Bilstein
1973 Porsche 911 Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Left Bilstein - B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-40AA0A1    35-001270  New

F4-V36-0127-H1 , 911 341 041 04 , 084857 , V36-0127 , 911 341 041 33 , 35001270

Qty:
$774.00
  • B6 Performance-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • w/0 in. Lift/Drop;
  • B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: Green Straight
    • Finish: Green Paint
    • Internal Design: Monotube
    • Lower Mount Type: Special
    • Series: B6 Performance
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B6 Performance dampers are a performance upgrade to OE dampers designed to be paired with the OE factory spring. These dampers offer application specific valve settings with a monotube design to bring out the best handling performance of a vehicle. Each damper is rigorously tested for quality that meets or exceeds OE standards. B6 Performance dampers will provide improved safety and handling performance with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front Left
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Submodel Position
1973 - Porsche 911 S Front Left
Bilstein
2005 Porsche 911 Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Bilstein - B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-48D9FEA    22-052568  New

996 343 043 46 , 930811 , 996 343 016 04 , 996 343 043 02 , 996 343 043 44 , 996 343 043 14 , 996 343 043 18 , 996 343 043 51 , 996 343 015 04 , VN3-5256 , 996 343 043 24 , 996 343 043 43 , 996 343 043 30 , 996 343 043 48 , 996 343 043 22 , F4-VN3-5256-H0 , 996 343 043 31 , 996 343 043 39 , 22052568 , 996 343 043 27 , 996 343 043 52

Qty:
$245.00
  • B6 Performance-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Production Spring Seat Must Be Used;w/0 in. Lift/Drop;
  • B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: No
    • Finish: Yellow Paint
    • Internal Design: Twintube
    • Lower Mount Type: Base Cup
    • Series: B6 Performance
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B6 Performance dampers are a performance upgrade to OE dampers designed to be paired with the OE factory spring. These dampers offer application specific valve settings with a monotube design to bring out the best handling performance of a vehicle. Each damper is rigorously tested for quality that meets or exceeds OE standards. B6 Performance dampers will provide improved safety and handling performance with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
  • Suggested Purchase Quantity: 2
    • Most jobs typically require 2 of this item.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Submodel Position
2005 - Porsche 911 Turbo Front
Bilstein
1994 Porsche 911 Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Left Bilstein - B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-366F654    35-052777  New

VE3-5277 , 965 343 041 00 , 35052777 , 8741-1541LSport , F4-VE3-5277-H3 , 964 343 041 04 , F4-VE3-5277-H2 , 964 343 041 02 , 689419 , 964 343 041 03 , 965 343 041 02

Qty:
$342.00
  • B6 Performance-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • w/0 in. Lift/Drop;
  • B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: Blue Bellows
    • Finish: Zinc Plated
    • Internal Design: Monotube
    • Lower Mount Type: Bracket
    • Series: B6 Performance
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B6 Performance dampers are a performance upgrade to OE dampers designed to be paired with the OE factory spring. These dampers offer application specific valve settings with a monotube design to bring out the best handling performance of a vehicle. Each damper is rigorously tested for quality that meets or exceeds OE standards. B6 Performance dampers will provide improved safety and handling performance with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front Left
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Submodel Position
1994 - Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Front Left
Bilstein
1996 Porsche 911 Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Right Bilstein - B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-1E73A89    35-116493  New

8741-1542RSport , 993 343 042 35 , 993 343 042 06 , F4-VE3-B649-H3 , 35116493 , 993 343 042 37 , 993 343 042 04 , VE3-B649 , F4-VE3-B649-H2 , 217906 , VE3-4693

Qty:
$386.00
  • B6 Performance-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • w/0 in. Lift/Drop; Standard U.S. Height
  • B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: Blue Bellows
    • Finish: Zinc Plated
    • Internal Design: Monotube
    • Lower Mount Type: Bracket
    • Series: B6 Performance
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B6 Performance dampers are a performance upgrade to OE dampers designed to be paired with the OE factory spring. These dampers offer application specific valve settings with a monotube design to bring out the best handling performance of a vehicle. Each damper is rigorously tested for quality that meets or exceeds OE standards. B6 Performance dampers will provide improved safety and handling performance with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front Right
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Position
1996 - Porsche 911 Front Right
Bilstein
1974 Porsche 911 Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Right Bilstein - B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-0439816    35-001287  New

084858 , 911 341 042 04 , F4-V36-0128-H1 , 35001287 , V36-0128 , 911 341 042 33

Qty:
$774.00
  • B6 Performance-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • w/0 in. Lift/Drop;
  • B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: Green Straight
    • Finish: Green Paint
    • Internal Design: Monotube
    • Lower Mount Type: Special
    • Series: B6 Performance
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B6 Performance dampers are a performance upgrade to OE dampers designed to be paired with the OE factory spring. These dampers offer application specific valve settings with a monotube design to bring out the best handling performance of a vehicle. Each damper is rigorously tested for quality that meets or exceeds OE standards. B6 Performance dampers will provide improved safety and handling performance with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front Right
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Submodel Position
1974 - Porsche 911 Carrera Front Right
Bilstein
2005 Porsche 911 Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Bilstein - B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-50D4689    22-046123  New

VN7-4612 , 996 343 041 20 , 996 343 041 22 , 996 343 041 36 , 996 343 041 23 , F4-VN7-4612-H0 , 293023 , 22046123 , 996 343 041 04 , 996 343 041 38 , 996 343 041 29 , 996 343 041 39 , 996 343 041 17 , 996 343 041 41 , 8741-1543Sport , 996 343 041 19

Qty:
$245.00
  • B6 Performance-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Supersedes PN[F4-VN7-4612-H0];w/0 in. Lift/Drop; w/Standard Suspension Only
  • B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: No
    • Finish: Yellow Paint
    • Internal Design: Twintube
    • Lower Mount Type: Base Cup
    • Series: B6 Performance
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B6 Performance dampers are a performance upgrade to OE dampers designed to be paired with the OE factory spring. These dampers offer application specific valve settings with a monotube design to bring out the best handling performance of a vehicle. Each damper is rigorously tested for quality that meets or exceeds OE standards. B6 Performance dampers will provide improved safety and handling performance with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
  • Suggested Purchase Quantity: 2
    • Most jobs typically require 2 of this item.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Submodel Position
2005 - Porsche 911 Carrera Front
Bilstein
2004 Porsche Boxster Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Bilstein - B4 Series OE Replacement Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-257C76F    22-113313  New

986 343 041 12 , 986 343 041 23 , 986 343 041 34 , VNE-B331 , 986 343 041 37 , 986 343 041 04 , 986 343 041 17 , 986 343 041 02 , 986 343 041 35 , 986 343 041 30 , 986 343 041 31 , 986 343 041 16 , F4-VNE-B331-H0 , 986 343 041 20 , 986 343 041 22 , 22113313

Qty:
$250.00
  • B4 OE Replacement-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • w/0 in. Lift/Drop;
  • B4 Series OE Replacement Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: No
    • Finish: Black Paint
    • Internal Design: Twintube
    • Lower Mount Type: Base Cup
    • Series: B4 Oe Replacement
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B4 OE Replacement dampers are specifically engineered to be the best choice for maintaining the original ride quality of your vehicle, while meeting or exceeding OE standards. These dampers are the ideal choice for the driver looking to restore the original performance and handling of their vehicle, with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
  • Suggested Purchase Quantity: 2
    • Most jobs typically require 2 of this item.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Position
2004 - Porsche Boxster Front
Bilstein
2006 Porsche Cayenne Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Left Bilstein - B8 Performance Plus Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-53B9EEB    35-110583  New

F4-VE3-B058-H2 , F4-VE3-B058-H1 , 973811 , 35110583 , VE3-B058

Qty:
$406.00
  • B8 Performance Plus-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • w/0 in. Lift/Drop;
  • B8 Performance Plus Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: No
    • Finish: Yellow Paint
    • Internal Design: Monotube
    • Lower Mount Type: Clevis
    • Series: B8 Performance Plus
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B8 Performance Plus dampers are a performance upgrade to OE dampers designed to be paired with aftermarket lowering springs. These dampers offer application specific valve settings with a monotube design to bring out the best handling performance of a vehicle. Each damper is rigorously tested for quality that meets or exceeds OE standards. B8 Performance Plus dampers are the ideal solution for pairing with a lowering spring for improved handling and sportier look with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front Left
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Submodel Position
2006 - Porsche Cayenne Base Front Left
Bilstein
2005 Porsche 911 Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Bilstein - B4 Series OE Replacement Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-5A8E5A2    22-113344  New

996 343 043 43 , 996 343 043 50 , 996 343 043 17 , 996 343 041 28 , 996 343 043 46 , 996 343 015 04 , 996 343 043 48 , VNE-B334 , 996 343 043 30 , 996 343 043 51 , F4-VNE-B334-H0 , 996 343 043 52 , 996 343 043 26 , 996 343 043 44 , 996 343 043 31 , 996 343 043 27 , 996 343 043 29 , 22113344 , 996 343 043 22 , 996 343 043 18 , 996 343 043 39 , 996 343 043 24 , 996 343 043 14 , 996 343 041 27 , 996 343 041 14 , 996 343 016 04 , 996 343 041 30 , 996 343 041 31 , 996 343 043 02

Qty:
$331.00
  • B4 OE Replacement-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Production Spring Seat Must Be Used;w/0 in. Lift/Drop;
  • B4 Series OE Replacement Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: No
    • Finish: Black Paint
    • Internal Design: Twintube
    • Lower Mount Type: Base Cup
    • Series: B4 Oe Replacement
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B4 OE Replacement dampers are specifically engineered to be the best choice for maintaining the original ride quality of your vehicle, while meeting or exceeding OE standards. These dampers are the ideal choice for the driver looking to restore the original performance and handling of their vehicle, with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
  • Suggested Purchase Quantity: 2
    • Most jobs typically require 2 of this item.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Submodel Position
2005 - Porsche 911 Turbo S Front
Bilstein
2004 Porsche Boxster Suspension Strut Assembly - Rear Bilstein - B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-558156F    22-046222  New

F4-VN3-4622-H0 , 986 333 051 19 , 986 333 051 20 , 986 333 059 06 , 986 333 051 31 , 293021 , VN3-4622 , 22046222 , 986 333 059 04 , 986 333 051 06 , 8740-1574Sport

Qty:
$236.00
  • B6 Performance-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • w/0 in. Lift/Drop;
  • B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: No
    • Finish: Yellow Paint
    • Internal Design: Twintube
    • Lower Mount Type: Base Cup
    • Series: B6 Performance
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B6 Performance dampers are a performance upgrade to OE dampers designed to be paired with the OE factory spring. These dampers offer application specific valve settings with a monotube design to bring out the best handling performance of a vehicle. Each damper is rigorously tested for quality that meets or exceeds OE standards. B6 Performance dampers will provide improved safety and handling performance with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
  • Suggested Purchase Quantity: 2
    • Most jobs typically require 2 of this item.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Rear
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Position
2004 - Porsche Boxster Rear
Bilstein
2005 Porsche 911 Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Bilstein - B8 Performance Plus Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-0F9FAB4    22-046130  New

VN7-4613 , F4-VN7-4613-H0 , 22046130 , 293024 , 8741-1543Sport

Qty:
$260.00
  • B8 Performance Plus-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • w/0 in. Lift/Drop; w/Sport Suspension
  • B8 Performance Plus Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: No
    • Finish: Yellow Paint
    • Internal Design: Twintube
    • Lower Mount Type: Base Cup
    • Series: B8 Performance Plus
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B8 Performance Plus dampers are a performance upgrade to OE dampers designed to be paired with aftermarket lowering springs. These dampers offer application specific valve settings with a monotube design to bring out the best handling performance of a vehicle. Each damper is rigorously tested for quality that meets or exceeds OE standards. B8 Performance Plus dampers are the ideal solution for pairing with a lowering spring for improved handling and sportier look with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
  • Suggested Purchase Quantity: 2
    • Most jobs typically require 2 of this item.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Submodel Position
2005 - Porsche 911 Carrera Front
Bilstein
2004 Porsche Boxster Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Bilstein - B8 Performance Plus Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-332CC46    22-046239  New

VN7-4623 , 293026 , 8741-1573Sport , 22046239 , F4-VN7-4623-H0

Qty:
$267.00
  • B8 Performance Plus-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • McPherson Strut;w/0 in. Lift/Drop;
  • B8 Performance Plus Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: No
    • Finish: Yellow Paint
    • Internal Design: Twintube
    • Lower Mount Type: Base Cup
    • Series: B8 Performance Plus
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B8 Performance Plus dampers are a performance upgrade to OE dampers designed to be paired with aftermarket lowering springs. These dampers offer application specific valve settings with a monotube design to bring out the best handling performance of a vehicle. Each damper is rigorously tested for quality that meets or exceeds OE standards. B8 Performance Plus dampers are the ideal solution for pairing with a lowering spring for improved handling and sportier look with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
  • Suggested Purchase Quantity: 2
    • Most jobs typically require 2 of this item.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Position
2004 - Porsche Boxster Front
Bilstein
2004 Porsche Boxster Suspension Strut Assembly - Rear Bilstein - B4 Series OE Replacement Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-1C63834    22-113320  New

986 333 051 31 , VNE-B332 , 986 333 051 04 , 986 333 051 30 , 986 333 059 06 , 986 333 051 06 , F4-VNE-B332-H0 , 986 333 051 14 , 986 333 051 19 , 986 333 051 20 , 986 333 051 18 , 986 333 059 04 , 22113320

Qty:
$250.00
Bilstein Suspension Strut Assembly  Rear
  • B4 OE Replacement-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • w/0 in. Lift/Drop;
  • B4 Series OE Replacement Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: No
    • Finish: Black Paint
    • Internal Design: Twintube
    • Lower Mount Type: Base Cup
    • Series: B4 Oe Replacement
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B4 OE Replacement dampers are specifically engineered to be the best choice for maintaining the original ride quality of your vehicle, while meeting or exceeding OE standards. These dampers are the ideal choice for the driver looking to restore the original performance and handling of their vehicle, with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
  • Suggested Purchase Quantity: 2
    • Most jobs typically require 2 of this item.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Rear
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Position
2004 - Porsche Boxster Rear
Bilstein
1989 Porsche 911 Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Left Bilstein - Motorsports Series Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-51A0C5E    35-587743  New

VS-1453L , K4-V36-58774H0

Qty:
$1,344.00
  • Motorsports-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • w/0 in. Lift/Drop;
  • Motorsports Series Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Adjustable Damping: Non-adjustable
    • Body Design: Threaded Body (coilover)
    • Body Inside Diameter: 36mm
    • Body Material: Steel
    • Boot Included: No
    • Collapsed Length:
      • 18.230 In.
      • 463mm
    • Compression @0.52m/s: 1600
    • Extended Length:
      • 22.950 In.
      • 583mm
    • Finish: Yellow Paint
    • Internal Design: Monotube
    • Lower Mount Type: Special
    • Piston Type: Linear
    • Rebound @0.26m/s: 1610
    • Rebound @0.52m/s: 1610
    • Series: Motorsports
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • Valving Identifier: N/a
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein Motorsports dampers are designed as a direct fit solution for a variety of motorsports applications. Each damper features monotube technology with proprietary spring steel valve discs tuned specifically to each application for superior on-track handling and control. Bilstein Motorsports dampers are ideal for racers requiring a direct fit solution with true race-proven performance.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front Left
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Submodel Position
1989 - Porsche 911 Turbo Carrera Front Left
Bilstein
1989 Porsche 911 Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Right Bilstein - B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-2489F6B    35-052784  New

217898 , 8741-1541RSport , 965 343 042 02 , F4-VE3-5278-H3 , F4-VE3-5278-H2 , 964 343 042 03 , 965 343 042 00 , 35052784 , VE3-5278 , 964 343 042 02 , 964 343 042 04

Qty:
$342.00
  • B6 Performance-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • w/0 in. Lift/Drop;
  • B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: Blue Bellows
    • Finish: Zinc Plated
    • Internal Design: Monotube
    • Lower Mount Type: Bracket
    • Series: B6 Performance
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B6 Performance dampers are a performance upgrade to OE dampers designed to be paired with the OE factory spring. These dampers offer application specific valve settings with a monotube design to bring out the best handling performance of a vehicle. Each damper is rigorously tested for quality that meets or exceeds OE standards. B6 Performance dampers will provide improved safety and handling performance with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front Right
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Submodel Position
1989 - Porsche 911 Carrera 4 Front Right
Bilstein
2005 Porsche 911 Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Bilstein - B8 Performance Plus Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-1EE5B7B    22-052728  New

22052728 , 930812 , VN3-5272 , F4-VN3-5272-H0

Qty:
$260.00
  • B8 Performance Plus-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Production Spring Seat Must Be Used;w/0 in. Lift/Drop; w/Sport Suspension
  • B8 Performance Plus Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: No
    • Finish: Yellow Paint
    • Internal Design: Twintube
    • Lower Mount Type: Base Cup
    • Series: B8 Performance Plus
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B8 Performance Plus dampers are a performance upgrade to OE dampers designed to be paired with aftermarket lowering springs. These dampers offer application specific valve settings with a monotube design to bring out the best handling performance of a vehicle. Each damper is rigorously tested for quality that meets or exceeds OE standards. B8 Performance Plus dampers are the ideal solution for pairing with a lowering spring for improved handling and sportier look with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
  • Suggested Purchase Quantity: 2
    • Most jobs typically require 2 of this item.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Submodel Position
2005 - Porsche 911 Turbo Front
Bilstein
1999 Porsche Boxster Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Bilstein - B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly

P311-44E6382    22-046215  New

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  • B6 Performance-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • w/0 in. Lift/Drop;
  • B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: No
    • Finish: Yellow Paint
    • Internal Design: Twintube
    • Lower Mount Type: Base Cup
    • Series: B6 Performance
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
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  • Bilstein B6 Performance dampers are a performance upgrade to OE dampers designed to be paired with the OE factory spring. These dampers offer application specific valve settings with a monotube design to bring out the best handling performance of a vehicle. Each damper is rigorously tested for quality that meets or exceeds OE standards. B6 Performance dampers will provide improved safety and handling performance with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
  • Suggested Purchase Quantity: 2
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Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front
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1999 - Porsche Boxster Front
Bilstein
1997 Porsche 911 Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Left Bilstein - B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly

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$386.00
  • B6 Performance-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • w/0 in. Lift/Drop; Standard U.S. Height
  • B6 Performance Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: Blue Bellows
    • Finish: Zinc Plated
    • Internal Design: Monotube
    • Lower Mount Type: Bracket
    • Series: B6 Performance
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B6 Performance dampers are a performance upgrade to OE dampers designed to be paired with the OE factory spring. These dampers offer application specific valve settings with a monotube design to bring out the best handling performance of a vehicle. Each damper is rigorously tested for quality that meets or exceeds OE standards. B6 Performance dampers will provide improved safety and handling performance with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front Left
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Position
1997 - Porsche 911 Front Left
Bilstein
2004 Porsche 911 Suspension Strut Assembly - Front Bilstein - B4 Series OE Replacement Suspension Strut Assembly

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  • B4 OE Replacement-Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Not For Use w/PASM;w/0 in. Lift/Drop; w/Standard Suspension Only
  • B4 Series OE Replacement Suspension Strut Assembly
  • Product Attributes:
    • Boot Included: No
    • Finish: Black Paint
    • Internal Design: Twintube
    • Lower Mount Type: Base Cup
    • Series: B4 Oe Replacement
    • Title: Bilstein Shock Absorbers
    • Upper Mount Type: Stem
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65: Yes
    • WARNING CA Proposition 65 Message: Warning: Cancer & Reproductive Harm - Www.p65warnings.ca.gov
  • Bilstein B4 OE Replacement dampers are specifically engineered to be the best choice for maintaining the original ride quality of your vehicle, while meeting or exceeding OE standards. These dampers are the ideal choice for the driver looking to restore the original performance and handling of their vehicle, with the added benefit of world-famous Bilstein quality.
  • Suggested Purchase Quantity: 2
    • Most jobs typically require 2 of this item.
Brand: Bilstein
Position: Front
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Vehicle Submodel Position
2004 - Porsche 911 Carrera 4 Front

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rear defroster stopped working

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Question From saharatj98 on rear defroster stopped working

Rear defrost Issues!

Something that should be really easy has got me stumped...

This is on a 1985 Porsche 944. Power comes in on the driver's side of liftgate glass. 3" jumper connects to the lift strut. Likewise another jumper connects the glass side of the strut to the defrost. Ground is the same on the passenger side through the strut.

I have 12v at the terminal and through the jumper through the strut and across all but 2 defrost wires and to the ground side when ground is disconnected. WHen ground is connected I lose 12v and have nothing. I disconnect 12v jumper and have 12v again from the switch. I checked my ground side and it is fine. Defrost used to work and slowly has gone less and less effective this last year to totally not working at all. Thought about increasing resistance in the grid as old wiring can deteriorate, but it's been garaged since new and has low miles. I have a few older Volkswagens and defrost works fine in all.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Note: The grid on ON the glass not in it. Just cleaning it can mess them up. Closing that on cargo or scraping a sticker off will kill them as well.

You can test these with a test light and find the breaks. May be all of them now. With a flashlight you can usually see where the break is and there is a repair nail polish type product that can work but hasn't been perfect in ones I've fixed.

I think you'll find the continuity has been broken,

T

Response From saharatj98 Top Rated Answer

nope..... got all but 2.... only 2 of the 10 have a break. All the rest have continuity through both sides. Don't haul anything back there to scratch and clean windows with the same amonia free window cleaner I use on all my cars.... THese two broken grids have been broken for years and defrost still worked.

I have voltage, I have ground. WHen I disconnect ground I get voltage through grid. When grounded, voltage drops to 0. When voltage disconnected I have 12v... It's like I have a dead short when plugged in but not enough to pop the fuse or anything. Got current there though, like grid has a dead short, but doesn't short it out enough to pop fuse, but then doesn't get hot either. A short causes heat which is kind of the principal it uses anyway... I think maybe for whatever reason my grid just will not carry current anymore?

Response From DanD

If you’re loosing power on the left side when everything is connected, you’re going to have to work through the system looking where there’s a bad connection or device (relay?).
What I mean is, whatever is causing this is still partially connected or working. When the ground wire is disconnected; there’s enough connection at the problem that voltage can pass through. Once things are put back so that the window should work, the load on the system from the grid is causing whatever to disconnect (go open).
Find the relay and test whether there’s voltage on the black wire (feed from relay to window) at the relay, when the system is turned on and everything connected.
If there is, start chasing that black wire to the window, looking of a rotted /cut wire. If there’s no power on the black wire, test that there’s power from fuse #13, (30 amp) in the under hood electrical center is getting to the relay; if so the relay is likely at fault.
Remember that German made vehicles use brown as the color making ground wires. I guess they have to be different then the rest of the planet? LOL

Dan.

Response From saharatj98


If you’re loosing power on the left side when everything is connected, you’re going to have to work through the system looking where there’s a bad connection or device (relay?).
What I mean is, whatever is causing this is still partially connected or working. When the ground wire is disconnected; there’s enough connection at the problem that voltage can pass through. Once things are put back so that the window should work, the load on the system from the grid is causing whatever to disconnect (go open).
Find the relay and test whether there’s voltage on the black wire (feed from relay to window) at the relay, when the system is turned on and everything connected.
If there is, start chasing that black wire to the window, looking of a rotted /cut wire. If there’s no power on the black wire, test that there’s power from fuse #13, (30 amp) in the under hood electrical center is getting to the relay; if so the relay is likely at fault.
Remember that German made vehicles use brown as the color making ground wires. I guess they have to be different then the rest of the planet? LOL

Dan.

Response From DanD

Are you trying to say something by not saying anything, quoting my last post?

Dan.

Response From saharatj98

strange, my reply did not go through...anyway, found fuse that feeds relay old, had continuity but weak. Replaced it but still nothing. Switch has power and sends power to relay to operate it. Just not getting power supply to relay and obviously not back out to defog..... but, i have 12v to defog when switch is on. somewhere somehow i have a cross feed or something. more digging in tonight..... wiring looks totally stock and clean so no butchering under there at all.... it's a 25 amp circuit and ya, all german cars are tan grounds.... used to it:) but thanks.

Response From saharatj98

I have good power to the relay.... when switched on, it does click but voltage in to the relay drops to .8 and out is .8..... Going to take relay apart and check it out...

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Ok: I think I see what's going on and am confused like you are. Seems like amps available just doesn't cut it - like using a 9v little battery would stall out trying to run this.

You would think over time the grids would carry less juice thru them - not so much as to stop the show and as you said it doesn't seem to trip anything. I've run these direct from a batter with jumper clips and they work.

These things just must go thru a breaker and a timer that shuts them down or need to be re set to on if you re-start the vehicle. That's where the problem must be. Must be contact points like like used for ignition probably just don't transfer or contact well enough to transfer the current at full amps needed. You said this got increasingly slower. With points back when we used to file them, align them and things to make them work better. I still have a meter to show how well they were letting current thru which is just an ohm reading. For this there really shouldn't be any resistance. Kind of like if you put a test light between power side wire and the grid connector it would light but not enough power thru just the bulb to make the grids warm.

With that I say the breaker/relay works but doesn't let the amps thru it and that would explain it. Now the question is where is that thing? Can you hear it "tick" when you put it on? Otherwise I have no way to locate that for you,

T

What to do with this Mechanic???

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Question From TJsage79 on What to do with this Mechanic???

After a relative passed I was given a 1984 Porsche 944 turbo. I never had any money to do anything to it so it sat for at least 3 years. It had a smoking/gas smell problem so when I got money to bring it back to life I bring it to a mechanic who says he wants to look at it first to see if its worth saving.....

He says yes and gets me for about 4,000 in brakes, front struts???, and god knows what to seal every thing up.....

I said I wanted the car in running condition and to do a full over haul so I could have a working car.....

So after 4 months of not having the car more then a day due to oil leaking and battery dying, he says he needs to re-seal all this stuff for another 1,200.....

So what the hell do I do and can I sue this bastard?

Response From Hammer Time

Sue him for what? Because you have a car that is a money pit? Unless you can prove that he charged for work that he didn't do or that he sold you work that it didn't need, he hasn't done anything illegal.

Response From TJsage79

I thought he was supposed to fix the car???? Make it drivable???? Is it proof enough that it cannot drive????

It my line of work if you pay for something, I have to deliver that job 100%...

I told him to do a complete overhaul to make it perfect again...Said do everything....

So if your plumber installs your bathroom and has done all the work???But their are leaks everywhere and you only have cold water..... Unless you can prove that he charged for work that he didn't do or that he sold you work that it didn't need, he hasn't done anything illega?

Response From re-tired

Whoa ,back up. Yes he has an obligation to repair ACCORDING to a work order signed by YOU. If you did not get a WO signed by both parties . It comes down to his word against yours. Without written documentation your only recourse is arbitration IF he agrees to it. Communication not lawyers is way out. If you think HE was expensive. ....wait and see what a lawyer gets ..........with no garantee of fix I might add.

Response From TJsage79

Being too expensive was not a problem....I just wanted to be able to drive the car.....Im not keen on the mechanic world.....Whats is the deal after dumping 4,000 into a car and not being able to drive it?

The only written contract is the recipe for the work he did, parts, labor?....

Just still dont understand how in this line of work it is often accepted to get away with partial or shoddy work.....

Response From Hammer Time

Shoddy work? Do you have any proof of that?
It sounds to me like your vehicle needed a lot more work that what you authorized to be done. You just saying that you wanted a complete, finished car when he was done isn't a specific repair. You contracted for some specific repairs. Now, if these specific repairs were not done or done incorrectly, you may have a case but just because a vehicle needs more work beyond what you paid for, does not give you any right to go after him fpr the other repairs he made.

Response From TJsage79

So I guess its my fault? just like everything else today it seems like more rights are given to people who do wrong rather then good.....So I just have to say Thats That???You tried to fix it, the 4,000 didn't address the problem, Sorry and its understandable the car is not usable.....?

And if i give him the extra 1,200, and its the same thing????

Seems like a great business......Take a job, get paid and if the job is complete or not....You are not at fault and can even ask for more money to finish the original job????....

Just seems like this is all to often in this business and very often do you come across people with the same stories...

Response From Hammer Time

Stop feeling sorry for yourself and looking for someone else to blame.... When you make the stupid decision to try to resurrect a car that should have stayed in the junkyard, that's the price you pay. Stop trying to blame everyone else because you took on a job that needed more work than your wallet could handle. Everybody wants to blame the repair shop when things don't turn out the way they had hoped. Nobody seems to blame the doctor when the patient doesn't turn out they way they had hoped. You don't get any guarantees from them when they start treatment. Your car isn't any different. You get what you pay for and if that only takes you half way to your goal, that's not the shops fault.
You should have gotten some other opinions on whether that car was worth fixing or not. Don't ask the guy that expects the business.

Response From TJsage79

So then i just have to eat it on this 1????

The money isnt a problem, it was just the resurrection of a car with sentimental value that I thought when you ask for something to be fixed, then usually it gets fixed?.

Mechanics are telling me 4,000 worth of work should have done the job,

My Stupid decision?.....When someone hires me to put in a driveway or parking lot I dont offer a prof. opinion and after the job say you should have done your research and not put a driveway on sand or a area prone to flooding....

If my Driveway is flooded or sinking I get sued...Cant say your fault for investing in it, want it fixed cough up more money....

If this happened to anyone else,,,,,Which im not aware of the mechanic world, but it is perfectly normal to accept that after 4,000 in repairs, then NOTHING???

What would U people do, sounds like I just have to accept it, move on??? For some reason thats seems wrong to me?

Response From danastanley

Sorry to butt in, but I really really really want to share my opinion on this.

To the guy with the Porsche:

I know how frustrated you are, I've been in your shoes. You should pick a mechanic like you would pick your doctor. One you understand, can relate to, and feel somewhat confident in his mechanical understanding and ability. Judging by your posts, this is not the case with your current mechanic. Having said that, remember: A mechanic's ability is his 'goods'.

Have you ever heard the phrase 'caveat emptor' ?? It is a legal term that would be applied in judging this case.
The definition of this is 'let the buyer beware.' You can read the full definition below.
_________________________________________________

Latin, Let the buyer beware.] A warning that notifies a buyer that the goods he or she is buying are "as is," or subject to all defects.
When a sale is subject to this warning the purchaser assumes the risk that the product might be either defective or unsuitable to his or her needs.
This rule is not designed to shield sellers who engage in Fraud or bad faith dealing by making false or misleading representations about the quality or condition of a particular product. It merely summarizes the concept that a purchaser must examine, judge, and test a product considered for purchase himself or herself.
_________________________________

You are probably going to read the definition and say this does not pertain to your situation.... but it does. Your 'fault' is trusting what the mechanic said needed to be done - and then signing a work order to do those repairs. Even if you sued the mechanic, if he has done what the work order says, you have no case. Bottom line, you told the mechanic you wanted one thing (the car to run/work good) yet you signed a work order that says something else (front end repairs). I don't think the mechanic is a scam artist, I think it may have been lack of communication. I am not a mechanic but I have known many of them in my lifetime, and with the exception of a very few, the majority of them are very good, honest, people.

What a mechanic sees as the worst problem and what a car owner sees may be 2 different things.

The very last sentence 'a purchaser must examine, judge, and test a product considered for purchase himself or herself.'

would be the deciding factor in a case such as this. The fact that you expected one outcome and got another would not even be allowed to be presented. Bottom line, you accepted the mechanics opinion.

My advice is this: Do not pay this particular mechanic any more money. I'm not saying he does not have skill or honesty, I'm saying his ability doesn't matter if you do not trust him. Also, you should never ask someone else if something is worth saving or worth the money - any answer is an opinion and the only opinion that matters is yours. You are on this board now because you feel slighted, if you would have researched FIRST (instead of now) there might have been a different outcome. Get your car back and start over, research possible reasons for your problems so at the very least you can make an informed decision when hiring a mechanic.

Dana

Response From TJsage79


Sorry to butt in, but I really really really want to share my opinion on this.

To the guy with the Porsche:

I know how frustrated you are, I've been in your shoes. You should pick a mechanic like you would pick your doctor. One you understand, can relate to, and feel somewhat confident in his mechanical understanding and ability. Judging by your posts, this is not the case with your current mechanic. Having said that, remember: A mechanic's ability is his 'goods'.

Have you ever heard the phrase 'caveat emptor' ?? It is a legal term that would be applied in judging this case.
The definition of this is 'let the buyer beware.' You can read the full definition below.
_________________________________________________

Latin, Let the buyer beware.] A warning that notifies a buyer that the goods he or she is buying are "as is," or subject to all defects.
When a sale is subject to this warning the purchaser assumes the risk that the product might be either defective or unsuitable to his or her needs.
This rule is not designed to shield sellers who engage in Fraud or bad faith dealing by making false or misleading representations about the quality or condition of a particular product. It merely summarizes the concept that a purchaser must examine, judge, and test a product considered for purchase himself or herself.
_________________________________

You are probably going to read the definition and say this does not pertain to your situation.... but it does. Your 'fault' is trusting what the mechanic said needed to be done - and then signing a work order to do those repairs. Even if you sued the mechanic, if he has done what the work order says, you have no case. Bottom line, you told the mechanic you wanted one thing (the car to run/work good) yet you signed a work order that says something else (front end repairs). I don't think the mechanic is a scam artist, I think it may have been lack of communication. I am not a mechanic but I have known many of them in my lifetime, and with the exception of a very few, the majority of them are very good, honest, people.

What a mechanic sees as the worst problem and what a car owner sees may be 2 different things.

The very last sentence 'a purchaser must examine, judge, and test a product considered for purchase himself or herself.'

would be the deciding factor in a case such as this. The fact that you expected one outcome and got another would not even be allowed to be presented. Bottom line, you accepted the mechanics opinion.

My advice is this: Do not pay this particular mechanic any more money. I'm not saying he does not have skill or honesty, I'm saying his ability doesn't matter if you do not trust him. Also, you should never ask someone else if something is worth saving or worth the money - any answer is an opinion and the only opinion that matters is yours. You are on this board now because you feel slighted, if you would have researched FIRST (instead of now) there might have been a different outcome. Get your car back and start over, research possible reasons for your problems so at the very least you can make an informed decision when hiring a mechanic.

Dana

And its just another way in our backwards world today when someone hands over their hard working money while the wrong people are protected. Who has time to research and make sure a pro is doing his job. Do you research your plumbing before you add another bathroom, do you research about dormers when your house is built?? Yeah maybe you scratch the surface, but you dont expect the pro you hired to say well this second bathroom you built has zero water pressure,,,,,so sorry I just built you this 10,000 bath, but you should have researched if your water system could handle a second bath. Now to fix this you will need another 10,000, and plumbers do this all the time and its called scamming the customer....

Oh nice dormer on your house,,, to bad it has to be torn down because the pro you hired....well you should have researched about zoning because he was too lose to the property line....now its 15,000 to take it down....

Backwards......

Molest children = Light sentences and then free room and board in gov motels
Illegal Immigrants= Work tax free, mostly cash, children get free education, driver li and insurance,,,NAH....tax payer money to translate everything for you.
Terrorists= Muslims build huge mosques at every site of their war victories, Turkeys huge church was converted into a Mosque when Turkey was invaded by Muslims, Isreal's temples converted into Mosques when fighting the Muslims...And now they are building a 13ft mega Mosque in the graveyard of thousands of Americans killed by Muslims at ground zero.

Im my town illegals get pulled over and the officers dont even know where to start and most are let go...its called safe haven cities where its racist to ask a person of color for i.d. Pull over a citizen and the Police tell themselves,,,,finally someone I can look up, check and give a ticket....

Completely backwards.....


Response From Sidom

What has been missed in all of this, is this was a car that has been sitting for an extended period of time. These are notorious for other areas failing after the initial repairs are made to make the car road worthy. This is just a fact of life and I have seen it numerous times.
If the original tech didn't communicate this, then he probably hasn't done many of these and while unfortunate, doesn't mean he is incompetent or dishonest. This is playing out exactly like all the sitters I've seen get put back on the road. You can expect about 5 to 6 "waves" of parts failures, minimum. Parking a vehicle for extended periods of time is hard on parts. So parts that look & test ok in the original inspection tend to fail after they go back into service and start getting used again. And as far as "completely" checking "everything" out, 1st there are no tests you can run that will predict if a part is going to fail and if there was it would be completely cost prohibitive to run them on every system, part, seal & gasket in the car.

In a nutshell you spent 4k to get the car going, that's in the ball park. Now it needs another 1200...I'm sure it does, this is the 1st wave of failures. You CAN expect 3 to 4 move waves. It's not a guarantee but the odds are very high this is going to happen with this vehicle. It's not the tech or shops fault. It's not a case on incompentency. This is a car that has been sitting you want to put back on the road and this is what happens to cars that get parked for extended periods of time...

With this info you need to make a decision if you want to continue or not. If you want to "completely" go thru "everything" to make it all new so you don't have to deal with the waves, your probably looking at 100k & a year down time minimum....

You said money was no object so those are your 2 choices. You've (hopefully) cleared the biggest hurdles already but there will be a few more to go and then you should be good for while but at the end of the day you still have an older car and with any car....parts go out.
Your other option would be to "totally" restore the car top to bottom and that would take some serious money. You sound somewhat educated in your posts....You're honestly telling me that you really thought that 4k would completely restore a Porsche from top to bottom, frt to back....EVERYTHING??? Come on guy!

If you seriously believed that, you are completely out of touch with reality in the 21st century, maybe in the 60s you could got that price. Frt brks on a Beamer for just pads & rotors is close to grand......


You have some very narrow views that are probably best kept to yourself. Actually I think I would enjoy seeing you having to do some these "lost" jobs illegal aliens are doing.

Are you really that big of an authority of the Muslim religion ? Or just judging them of the actions of a few fanatics...

So I guess you are a "true" patriot.....Someone who loves his country while hating 90% of the people who live there?

Response From TJsage79


What has been missed in all of this, is this was a car that has been sitting for an extended period of time. These are notorious for other areas failing after the initial repairs are made to make the car road worthy. This is just a fact of life and I have seen it numerous times.
If the original tech didn't communicate this, then he probably hasn't done many of these and while unfortunate, doesn't mean he is incompetent or dishonest. This is playing out exactly like all the sitters I've seen get put back on the road. You can expect about 5 to 6 "waves" of parts failures, minimum. Parking a vehicle for extended periods of time is hard on parts. So parts that look & test ok in the original inspection tend to fail after they go back into service and start getting used again. And as far as "completely" checking "everything" out, 1st there are no tests you can run that will predict if a part is going to fail and if there was it would be completely cost prohibitive to run them on every system, part, seal & gasket in the car.

In a nutshell you spent 4k to get the car going, that's in the ball park. Now it needs another 1200...I'm sure it does, this is the 1st wave of failures. You CAN expect 3 to 4 move waves. It's not a guarantee but the odds are very high this is going to happen with this vehicle. It's not the tech or shops fault. It's not a case on incompentency. This is a car that has been sitting you want to put back on the road and this is what happens to cars that get parked for extended periods of time...

With this info you need to make a decision if you want to continue or not. If you want to "completely" go thru "everything" to make it all new so you don't have to deal with the waves, your probably looking at 100k & a year down time minimum....

You said money was no object so those are your 2 choices. You've (hopefully) cleared the biggest hurdles already but there will be a few more to go and then you should be good for while but at the end of the day you still have an older car and with any car....parts go out.
Your other option would be to "totally" restore the car top to bottom and that would take some serious money. You sound somewhat educated in your posts....You're honestly telling me that you really thought that 4k would completely restore a Porsche from top to bottom, frt to back....EVERYTHING??? Come on guy!

If you seriously believed that, you are completely out of touch with reality in the 21st century, maybe in the 60s you could got that price. Frt brks on a Beamer for just pads & rotors is close to grand......


You have some very narrow views that are probably best kept to yourself. Actually I think I would enjoy seeing you having to do some these "lost" jobs illegal aliens are doing.

Are you really that big of an authority of the Muslim religion ? Or just judging them of the actions of a few fanatics...

So I guess you are a "true" patriot.....Someone who loves his country while hating 90% of the people who live there?


Of coures I knew there would be waves of failures thats why the car was put on the road right away so the guy can test drive it like im sure all mechanics do...

1,200 hundred to finish the job and maybe expect more failures......There are plenty of these cars in very nice condition going from 2,500 to 6,000. So its definitely a lost cause. But maybe they mechanic should have made sure the engine ran and did some testing before pads????

Illegal Jobs,,,,, they have been done for 100's of years before this recent influx and were given the right shots and meds from birth to secure health...Today people are fine with people serving them food without any proper health protection....and we question TB and swine flu.....

Muslim are not recent fanatics they deeply believe in text that just does not apply to present day or changing times and sickly believe they will receive virgins at death??? Thats ???And strongly do not like other religions and want Islam to be #1. Sheeps in wolves clothing we are at war on their land, they are fighting on our soil to, but in a different way that takes advantage of the weakness and ignorance of our leaders and people today who are afraid to say anything to these people.

Its not racist to want law and order, an even tax paying system, and properly medically protected children in our schools and people who cook and handle our food....If people are arguing any rights in America or complaining at all then they are in the wrong place. Cause the so called people you want to protect practically keep women prisoners of life and zero compassion on human rights....

its the wild west again

Response From Sidom

Without getting to long winded, this was the point I was trying to get across.

These failures aren't something that is going to pop up in the 1st few days.

That's the problem. The car needs to be driven and driven for a while. Basically too long & far where any shop is going to put these miles on it.

My shop has done enough of these where a job like this, it's clear up front what to expect. Basically you would've of been informed of what I posted earlier and then to drive the car. It would be best to keep it in town for the next few months until all the bugs had been worked. If a previous repair failed it would be warrantied, if it was unrelated to the work it wouldn't be covered.

Normally there is some reason attached to these cars. You even said it yourself a similar model sells for close to the original repair cost so money wise it makes no sense to fix these "money pits" up as an every day driver.
Our latest is a Toyota. The man is fixing up his son's car. He was informed of everything upfront and todate has been ok with it. I personally passed on the original ticket (18hrs)because I just don't like getting involved with those anymore. So far he has probably invested twice the cars worth. I don't know his reasons but he is fine everytime he comes in and while I have never seen his son I have seen every other member of his family (due to the numerous visits of drop off & pick ups).

It's finally slowed and we hadn't seen him for a while, he came in last week with O2 heater problems. So my SM & I are debating.....Is this still stuff from sitting or are we FINALLY back to normal pattern failures????

Point being if there isn't some kind of reason for keeping this car other than wanting this model it would be best to find a better project. As far as the tech making sure it ran good. You are right in the fact that the engine should've been in running order before doing the other work. Once the engine is running good, thats when the clock starts. You have to start somewhere. You do all your basic checks and after that you have to run it and just see what happens.
The Toyota came in non running....The tech did all the basic checks. good fuel pressure & volume, good compression, no spark. Fixed the no spark issue and got it running good. From there it got a new Timing belt & all fluids and taken for a drive. Everything sounded good and no weird noises. So the rest of the work proceeded. Tires, brks, etc.....and then was take for 2 very long drives and was good.......Guess what failed 5 miles after the car was picked up?????? The fuel pump.... My point.....It was tested and passed......This is what happens with these older cars and there are no tests to find this stuff........I won't go down the long list over the last 6 months but you can't blame anyone for this stuff.....

You have seemed to toned your comments down from the 1st post....

I won't deny that there is some problems with illegal immigration and not get into that here but you came off to me as lumping all immigrants in the same boat. You bash the Muslims for the quality of life & human rights issues. I won't debate that because I believe there are some rights issues that do need to be addressed. But apparently human rights issues don't apply to illegal aliens in your country. Just gettem outta here and do whatever. Have you seen the living conditions in their country? They are just looking for a better live for their families. It easy to pass judgment on a religion & country halfway around the world on human rights....You need to be doing this!!!! But in the same post you are kicking "humans" in "your" country to the curb with zero compassion?

Every Religion has a heaven. Maybe you are taking theirs to literal. As far as believing all other religions are wrong. I don't know your religion, whether you are Catholic or not but if your are. Aren't we all "fishers of men" and suppose to be spreading the word of God? Aren't we in the end of days right now and God is just waiting for ALL his children to be saved? Isn't it in the bible that we are not suppose to be worshiping false Gods?

Some of that stuff you said about the Muslim religion sorta sounded like it could apply to my religion as well

Response From Hammer Time

PLEASE..... let it die
No more politics

Response From Sidom

Com'on HT....That's 90% automotive with maybe 5 % politics & 5% religion..


Proverbs 27:17



Response From Hammer Time

I'm locking this thread. I've had enough of this idiot.

Response From Sidom

I'll leave it up to you HT and this probably isn't the place for a political debate so maybe it better to end it now.

The guy has some views that are different than mine and I don't agree with but some points are valid.

Response From Hammer Time

There are other forums for this crap.

Response From Tom Greenleaf Top Rated Answer

Aptly user named - go for it!

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Response From Tom Greenleaf

I wont but bet another will. Virgins, Politics etc.

This is a car repair site free to use to anyone.

WE DON'T GET PAID - PERIOD!

You have totally experienced techs offering time for N/C!

Done!

Response From Hammer Time

OK, this is not a format for you to just rant and rave about politics or anything else you don't like in the world. The situation has been explained to you so now it's time to stop bashing shops and go solve your problem.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Oh come on Hammer! Rant all you want!

Go fly with me!

Response From Hammer Time

He's done all the mechanic bashing he's going to do here.

Response From Peter Blake

I think your point is right. If you told him to make car drivable then he have to deliver it at first place and charge for that at that time. If the car is not completely ok and some work is not fixed how can he handover the car to you without completing whole work.

Response From re-tired

As i have stated earlier. What ezackly did your Contract (work order) call for. " Fix my car " is the same as hiring a contractor for 100k and telling him to"build me a house" with no blueprints . This industry does have a safety net thru the BBB. They have arbitration boards to settle cases such as yours . Both parties have to agree by the findings . You present your proof and the shop presents theirs. An independant expert (which i have been )will provide technical assistance to explain in laymans terms what work was done and in his opinion was it done right. The board then will determine if it was done according to the contract(WO) . I have seen the axe swing both ways . Sometimes the shop was found to have breached the contract , somtimes it came down to buyers remorse. If you feel you have a case go into arbitration and quit slandering every shop in the business .

Response From TJsage79


As i have stated earlier. What ezackly did your Contract (work order) call for. " Fix my car " is the same as hiring a contractor for 100k and telling him to"build me a house" with no blueprints . This industry does have a safety net thru the BBB. They have arbitration boards to settle cases such as yours . Both parties have to agree by the findings . You present your proof and the shop presents theirs. An independant expert (which i have been )will provide technical assistance to explain in laymans terms what work was done and in his opinion was it done right. The board then will determine if it was done according to the contract(WO) . I have seen the axe swing both ways . Sometimes the shop was found to have breached the contract , somtimes it came down to buyers remorse. If you feel you have a case go into arbitration and quit slandering every shop in the business .

Response From Hammer Time

Well stated Dana

Response From Hammer Time

the thing your just not accepting is that yes, you put $4000 into a car but the car needed $6000 or more worth of work. You said it yourself. Sentimental value. That will make you over spend every time. The car obviously never should have been repaired. That can't always be seen up front.

Response From TJsage79

I mean just on craigslist alone you can find a porsche 944 for under 3,000.......And this guy is telling me thats its worth it to dump 4,000 into it???? Every other mechanic I call now tells me its not worth putting any money into ?