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BRAKE NOISE

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Question From lyonnel2 on BRAKE NOISE

1996
Geo Prizm
1.6
187,000
Hello
I'm now have a 1996 Geo Prizm
My problem is when I apply my brakes I hear a squealing
sound, also when turning right or left while driving. In the
last two months I have installed new front brake pads and
new front rotors (both sides) What seems to be the problem?

Response From Tom Greenleaf

If from your new brakes it could be that brand of pads just has a problem. You may need to go back, make sure calipers are lubed where they should be and pins if used. They also make a goo you can put on the back side of pads to help squealing. If job is new enough you might need a different brand of pads and complain where you bought the others. Ceramic pads about never make peep and if legal for the car and of course cost more but last for ages, make no brake dust and are silent.

There's an outside chance that wear sensors and bent in too close but those usually shut up when applying the brakes.

Can't think of much else right now that could be so annoying. Over the years I've had vehicle that just were noisy and tried everything to shut them up. Changing brand worked the best,

T

Response From Mr.scotty

I have this problem 90% of the time when i get brakes from autozone, but never pepboys.

Response From lyonnel2

Thank You, Tom I will try changing pads. Will keep you informed

Response From Tom Greenleaf

My new fav is Centric ceramic. Last forever, feel great, no noise or dust - worth it. If that totally works I'd scream about the old ones if you just did this. If very recent I'll say you can leave the rotors alone but there could be some break in period so use caution at first,


T

Response From lyonnel2

Tom
I will do a price check on the pads that you suggested and will give the new rotors some more wearing time it has
been just a week since they were installed.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

One week you should be fine,

T

Response From lyonnel2

This is the set of brake pads I plan to buy:Duralast Gold Cmax/Brake Pads - Front
Price:
$59.99


Notes: Premium ceramicUltra Quiet with patented nitrile rubber shim. Disc hardware included.

Response From Hammer Time

That would be a good choice

Response From Tom Greenleaf

You have been doing a lot of hunting lionell. Agree that last one sounds good. I'm spoiled as I live right near New England's largest (probably) brake only warehouse outlet that simply has and can do anything,

T

Response From lyonnel2

I know that saves a lot on pads and shoes I have enjoyed your feedback
Again, I will let you know when I replace the pads.

Response From Hammer Time

That is done to quiet noises, not extend life of the pads

Response From lyonnel2

Thanks, Tom
I will get back with you in a week or two, bye

Response From Hammer Time

Most of the better pads come with a little packet of special grease. Spread an even coat at all the contact areas of the BACK of the pad. Be careful not to get any on the rotor or contact surface.

Response From lyonnel2 Top Rated Answer

I checked with auto zone for pricing, I have two choices, 1. do a upgrade or 2.but the same brake pads and have them
greased before installing.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

I don't know what they meant by greasing brake pads! You do grease where metal parts move but NEVER where the friction is. They may not have "Quiet" pads and package would be marked as such. NAPA is more likely to have quiet pads by even another brand than I mentioned. Just checked Autozone's site and there was quite a selection but none at the site stated "quiet" - the pads probably should come with a metal backing plate but you'd have to look at the counter as it was too hard to see from their site,

T

Response From lyonnel2

Hi Tom
You are correct. Here is what I found online:Wagner ThermoQuiet® Brake Pads - Front $51.99
Advance Auto Parts

Auto Zone Duralast Gold/Brake Pads - Front (ceramic)
Price:
$39.99
Also Duralast Gold Cmax/Brake Pads - Front (quiet ceramic)
Price:
$59.99
Have to wait until the first of April to make the switch

Response From Hammer Time

Auto Zone Duralast Gold/Brake Pads - Front (ceramic)
Price:
$39.99

I don't think that one is ceramic

Help with my GEO1992 with brake light and battery light

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Question From GEOneedHelp on Help with my GEO1992 with brake light and battery light

Please I need help I Have a 1992 Geo Prizm this is my car from college and back home. Recently I had some lights pop up. The BRAKE light and BATTERY light. I have been to the mechanic and they say my brake pads are fine. I am thinking this might be my alternator? but my car starts up fine. When i pressed on the brake the lights would show up then when i released and gased the lights went away. Now the lights just stay on.

Please help I do not want to get stranded on the highway by myself driving home or to school.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE

Response From Tom Greenleaf

I'm having trouble coming up with scenario that would connect the two lights??

The brake light if the red one is probably low brake fluid. Just filling it up may shut the light out but it shouldn't need to be filled up but maybe once in the life of the brake pads so a leak should be investigated if found low. That light could also be from the parking brake which can do that when cables get rusty and don't release properly.

Check the voltage of the battery with engine off and engine running. Off about 12.2V and running should be about 14V but not less than 13.5 or more than 15.

Now find out how old the battery is. They are marked with numbers, letters or even just pull out dots that say the age. Over 3 years is losing it's dependability and if it fail badly can wipe out the alternator so old ones should be replaced just because of their age even if it's not the current problem.

If money is an issue you can get a multimeter, test light, and alligator clips on red and black wires all for under $20 bucks and they would be handy to have. That's for cheap stuff and certainly more expensive stuff is better but these work and I buy them for just a tool box in the trunk of each car.

See what you find and hit back,

T

Response From GEOneedHelp

Thank You Mr. Greenleaf for responding

Would I be able to check a leak from the brakes without lifting the car up?
I just had the axel replaced on the right side because the rubber part had a rip.

Assuming the it is a small leak from the brakes or something and a old battery these I should still be able to make it from albany to NYC a few times??? Hopefully

Thank You

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Red warning lights mean business and yellow/amber means soon but not to be ignored. Brakes could be a faulty switch that is not a total safety issue but if it leaks brake fluid how could you know when it blow out and you have little to no braking at all? You can't fool with that one and if it's not a leak or you can't find it then at least bring the small container of DOT 3 (department of transportation) with you and you might be able to safely get to a safe spot but that's trouble you don't want.

The battery can wait if it tests as I mentioned. They are funny about age and can work like new until they quit. New ones can too but the odds are far less.

I know money is tight -- just saying college about says that. Others have things but you can buy a mulit-tester for about $9.96 at Wal-Mart and a few bucks for a test light. They are cheap but you can get a voltage reading, check fuses without taking them out and more for a thing the size of a pack of cigarettes.

The area that the shaft was replaced would be a place to look for the brake leak if in fact it's a leak at all. Brake fluid will wash right off with water so you won't find it if you have just driven in the rain and evidence will be washed away.

Albany to the NYC is not all that far but who could ever say any car is going to make any trip so what we do is reduce the odds of a breakdown. Any of us can breakdown which is why we have spare tires and assorted stuff with us to maybe get out of it.

Find out what you can about these two issues. Folks are here to help you as best we can with a keyboard,

T

Response From GEOneedHelp

oh yeh its all red lights and it has been on and off for a few months already,

I once asked a mechanic when it first happened and he said if it goes on and off dont worry about it.

Your Right I should get some brake fluid in case.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

No mechanic should tell you not to worry about warning lights. I understand that if it comes and goes it could be difficult to find out why. It should still be investigated especially with brakes.

Don't let carrying brake fluid with you be a security blanket. That's not what I meant by that. It may allow you to drive to get yourself out of harms way but is not a fix. It's not safe to even be broken down on the side of the road in many places and that's all I meant. It may not work for a second to just fill up an empty master cylinder. If it can get you off the road as a last ditch effort fine. Not to just delay fixing the problem until it's convenient for you. We share the roads and your ability to stop the car if compremised can involve the safety of others that you may just plow into with no brakes. Price/cost is secondary. The cost of an accident is far more expensive and may involve injuries to yourself and others counting on you to have a safe car.

It's your responsibility to get answers and the fix for this,

T

Response From GEOneedHelp Top Rated Answer

I understand and Thank you very much for all your help

P.s. - For the brake fluid if it is low, should I drain out the old? if so how would I do it, and if not its okay to add onto the brake fluid?

Thank you

Response From Tom Greenleaf

If you find it low enough to set a light off there's a leak. You can just top off if just a little low.

To change it all out for new you would emply most of it (like with a baster dedicated just for the car!) -- fill with new and bleed all the brakes maintaining it on the full side while doing that and when done leave it full.

Cars do not consume brake fluid but it does show a lower level as brakes pads wear as it has displaced the wear with the brake piston moving closer which is normal. From new brakes to needing to replace them there should be enough fluid to cover that. In general a one time top off for the life of pads about does it,

T

Response From GEOneedHelp

Hi Tom,
I just went to a local mechanic around my school and they said it was the alternator with the problem, and it would costs $191 to replace.

Would it be possible to make around a 3hr drive back home? Without getting it fixed because this may be my last time using this car, and I do not want to put $200 into it and not use it again.

Would it help if i took a few rests within the 3 hr drive, and not use the radio would that cause reserve more power for the alternator??

Thank You

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Never mind the alternator for the moment, what is the brake light? I don't see an alternator causing that problem??

If alternator was just putting out a small charge it might make a small trip with all electrical things off and pull fuse on daytime running lights. If it's putting out no charge it probably wouldn't last an hour even with a good battery as the fuel pump and other necessary engine controls are still using power and reserve in battery will not last all that long.

So for your answer: No -- it won't make it or at best you are taking a big gamble,

T