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'02 f150 p1451

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Question From neileo on '02 f150 p1451

i looked up what the code means and it had a couple different things that could be wrong, im a pretty handy guy so im trying to repair it myself but im just not sure what to look for on my truck. http://www.obd-codes.com/p1451-ford on that website it says what the code means and how there could be a couple different reasons it appeared and im not sure what exactly to do to fix it, any help would be greatly appreciated. if you need more info on the vehicle then just ask and i will be happy to tell you what you need to know

Response From neileo

sorry about the link i just wanted to show people what i read about the error code

Response From Discretesignals

Which engine?

Response From neileo

4.6l

Response From Discretesignals

P1451 means the engine computer detected a circuit problem for the EVAP canister vent solenoid. This basically means there is an electrical problem with the canister vent soleniod circuit. This could be an open or short in the circuit, an open or short in the canister vent soleniod coil windings, or no circuit control from the engine computer.

First thing you should is a visual inspection of the canister vent solenoid, wiring, connector, and terminals inside the connector and solenoid. If all that looks good, your going to have to break out the volt( VOM) meter and possibly some jumpers. You also need something to back probe the connector on the vent solenoid, so you can do some voltage drop measurements.

The only thing you won't be able to do is to test the engine computer's ability to ground the circuit. You need a scanner that has bi directional control, but hopefully it doesn't come to that.

The solenoid valve is located on top of the charcoal canister underneath the vehicle aft of the fuel tank, number 9.

Vent solenoid:


Response From neileo

according to the diagram am i going to have to check each point or should i check only certain ones

Response From Discretesignals

Not sure what you mean. The engine controller is flagging a code for an electrical problem in the vent solenoid circuit. You shouldn't have to worry about finding EVAP leaks or other EVAP issues not related to the code....just yet.

Response From neileo

i believe i found the part, is it no bigger than my hand? the part im looking at has an electrical wire going in at one end then a tube for what im assuming exhaust or some type of gas would go through, which leads into a box, would you like a picture?

Response From Discretesignals

Sure

Response From neileo

s there any other way to upload photos other than through that website because my photo is in a jpeg but it wont allow me to upload it

Response From Discretesignals

Which website are you using to host your picture?

Response From neileo

the image management system one that it defaults to when you click upload but my photos are bigger than 1024kb which is the max

Response From neileo

this link should show you my picture https://docs.google.com/document/d/13cfbqopDLEclG0SfqBPBjX-QIUuIh1gHdtZImeyfam8/pub


See if I can make that show direct for you........
http://autoforums.carjunky.com/upload/sol.jpgg


Got enough rust there to mess it up alone. Connector doesn't look so special either - I can't see how any code is going to go away without that stuff intact,


T

Response From neileo

this is a bigger picture were that part connects to this box
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rhhRkrewyFC1cbVgNF-Fu2jdutXFVzg7OkbO_K6x9fI/pub

Response From Discretesignals

That is definitely the canister vent solenoid valve. Looks like your in the rust belt.

If you have an ohm meter, measure the resistance of the solenoid. You can also take that valve and bench test it by applying battery and ground to each terminal in the valve's connector socket. The valve should click when power is applied to it.

Response From neileo

i have an ohm mete, so would i disconnect the part from the electric system and test it? what should the resistance be, and yea she's pretty rusty underneath

Response From neileo

so it was at 59.8 on the ohms meter but i found a wire that was broke off and i cant reconnect the wires because it broke of right at the point it connects to the plastic connector, if that made sense

Response From Discretesignals

A broken wire is definitely going to cause your issue. That valve looks really sad. Probably wouldn't hurt to replace it if possible. Factory specs is 48 to 65 ohms. You should still bench test it by applying power and ground to see if it is functional if you want to keep it. Looks like it came off the Titanic....lol

As for the wiring, there are actually connector pigtails available for that or you can hack one off at a salvage yard.

Motorcraft: p/n wpt322
Wells: p/n 1p1783

Response From neileo

yea i may just buy the whole part if i can find a good looking one at pull a part but if i cant i will get the wiring for now, thanks for all you help i really appreciate it, if i have more problems relating to this i will reply to one of you comments on this post

Response From Discretesignals

Your welcome. After you get your valve and wiring repaired, please come back in here and let us know how things turned out. Helps others that may run into this sort of problem to see how you resolved it.

Response From neileo

just another question real quick is this part on any other ford vehicles that i could salvage off of, because the closet salvage yard doesnt have an f150 right now

Response From Discretesignals Top Rated Answer

2006 Ford GT V8 330 5.4L (5409cc)
2005 Ford GT V8 330 5.4L (5409cc)
2005 Ford Ranger L4 140 2.3L
2005 Ford Ranger V6 182 3.0L
2005 Ford Ranger V6 245 4.0L
2004 Ford Crown Victoria V8 281 4.6L
2004 Ford Expedition
2004 Ford F-150 Heritage
2004 Ford Grand Marquis (Mexico) V8 281 4.6L
2004 Ford Lobo (Mexico)
2004 Ford Ranger L4 140 2.3L
2004 Ford Ranger V6 182 3.0L
2004 Ford Ranger V6 245 4.0L
2004 Lincoln Navigator
2004 Lincoln Town Car V8 281 4.6L
2004 Mercury Grand Marquis V8 281 4.6L
2004 Mercury Marauder V8 281 4.6L
2003 Ford Crown Victoria V8 281 4.6L
2003 Ford Escort
2003 Ford Expedition
2003 Ford F-150
2003 Ford Grand Marquis (Mexico) V8 281 4.6L
2003 Ford Lobo (Mexico)
2003 Ford Ranger L4 140 2.3L
2003 Ford Ranger V6 182 3.0L
2003 Ford Ranger V6 245 4.0L
2003 Ford Taurus
2003 Lincoln Navigator
2003 Lincoln Town Car V8 281 4.6L
2003 Mercury Grand Marquis V8 281 4.6L
2003 Mercury Marauder V8 281 4.6L
2003 Mercury Sable V6 182 3.0L
2002 Ford Crown Victoria V8 281 4.6L
2002 Ford Escort
2002 Ford Explorer Sport Trac
2002 Ford F-150
2002 Ford Grand Marquis (Mexico) V8 281 4.6L
2002 Ford Lobo (Mexico)
2002 Ford Ranger L4 140 2.3L
2002 Ford Ranger V6 182 3.0L
2002 Ford Ranger V6 245 4.0L
2002 Ford Taurus
2002 Lincoln Blackwood V8 330 5.4L
2002 Lincoln Town Car V8 281 4.6L
2002 Mercury Grand Marquis V8 281 4.6L
2002 Mercury Sable V6 182 3.0L
2001 Ford Crown Victoria V8 281 4.6L
2001 Ford Escort
2001 Ford Explorer Sport Trac
2001 Ford F-150
2001 Ford Grand Marquis (Mexico) V8 281 4.6L
2001 Ford Lobo (Mexico)
2001 Ford Ranger L4 140 2.3L
2001 Ford Ranger L4 153 2.5L
2001 Ford Ranger V6 182 3.0L
2001 Ford Ranger V6 245 4.0L
2001 Ford Sable (Mexico) V6 183 3.0L
2001 Ford Taurus
2001 Lincoln Town Car V8 281 4.6L
2001 Mercury Grand Marquis V8 281 4.6L
2001 Mercury Sable V6 182 3.0L
2000 Ford Crown Victoria V8 281 4.6L
2000 Ford Escort
2000 Ford F-150
2000 Ford Grand Marquis (Mexico) V8 281 4.6L
2000 Ford Ranger L4 153 2.5L
2000 Ford Ranger V6 182 3.0L
2000 Ford Ranger V6 245 4.0L
2000 Ford Sable (Mexico) V6 183 3.0L
2000 Ford Taurus
2000 Ford Windstar
2000 Lincoln Town Car V8 281 4.6L
2000 Mercury Grand Marquis V8 281 4.6L
2000 Mercury Sable V6 182 3.0L
1999 Ford Crown Victoria V8 281 4.6L
1999 Ford Escort
1999 Ford Grand Marquis (Mexico) V8 281 4.6L
1999 Ford Ranger L4 153 2.5L
1999 Ford Ranger V6 182 3.0L
1999 Ford Ranger V6 245 4.0L
1999 Ford Sable (Mexico) V6 183 3.0L
1999 Ford Taurus
1999 Ford Windstar
1999 Lincoln Town Car V8 281 4.6L
1999 Mercury Grand Marquis V8 281 4.6L
1999 Mercury Sable V6 182 3.0L
1999 Mercury Tracer L4 121 2.0L (1989cc)
1998 Ford Crown Victoria V8 281 4.6L
1998 Ford Escort
1998 Ford Grand Marquis (Mexico) V8 281 4.6L
1998 Ford Mustang
1998 Ford Ranger L4 153 2.5L
1998 Ford Ranger V6 182 3.0L
1998 Ford Ranger V6 245 4.0L
1998 Ford Sable (Mexico) V6 183 3.0L
1998 Ford Taurus
1998 Lincoln Continental V8 281 4.6L
1998 Lincoln Town Car V8 281 4.6L
1998 Mercury Grand Marquis V8 281 4.6L
1998 Mercury Sable V6 182 3.0L
1998 Mercury Tracer L4 121 2.0L (1989cc)
1997 Ford Mustang
1997 Ford Sable (Mexico) V6 183 3.0L
1997 Ford Taurus
1997 Lincoln Continental V8 281 4.6L
1997 Lincoln Town Car V8 281 4.6L
1997 Mercury Sable V6 182 3.0L

Response From neileo

o damn and they are all interchangeable with each other? that make it a lot easier thank you

Response From Discretesignals

Believe it or not, yes. Good luck finding the Ford Lobo though...LOL

Response From neileo

im just following up, the problem is solved and hasn't come back, i appreciate all your help, couldn't have done it without your help, thank you

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Glad to hear it and thanks for the follow up that it's now fixed. I'll close out thread for archives and YOU may ask for it to be re-opened by any moderator upon request,


T

Response From neileo

i can see the whole picture thanks, so is that the right part im looking for?

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Pic is there now. Too wide and couldn't change it. Can be taken out and put back by any moderator or perhaps resized so it fits better on most views,


T

Response From Discretesignals

To be honest with you, that thing is rittled with bugs.

You could use a hosting site such as photobucket or others. Then paste the link to your pic in here.

Response From neileo

is it closer to the back end or front end of the truck

Response From Discretesignals

Is is located in the picture above, number 9, if you didn't see it while I was doing some editing.

87 ford bronco

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Question From craiga. on 87 ford bronco

I have an 87 ford bronco and was wondering if you can use parts from a ford f-150 (including doors) to repair it?

Response From Hammer Time Top Rated Answer

No, I doubt the doors will fit. There may be a few things off the engine you can use but not much.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

HT - Maybe! That's when Ford couldn't make up its mind what to name what. This is an 87 Bronco and looks a lot like the "F" series trucks. There was another they called Bronco then quickly called it Bronco II.

See it this shows and before anyone wastes time ask a good junkyard as they have the crossover software for parts,



T

Response From re-tired

here is a link to a site that shows quite a few parts for both models with the same p/n given.

1980-96 Ford Truck/bronco - Door - Door Windows,motors & Parts

Engine Overhaul Manual for a Ford 300 six cylinder

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Question From screensman on Engine Overhaul Manual for a Ford 300 six cylinder

Anyone know where to get or find a engine overhaul repair manual for a ford 300 six cylinder (4.9 liter)? It is in a 1975 Ford F-100 Pickup.

Response From DanD Top Rated Answer

I don’t know if this helps?

http://www.carjunky.com/site/automotive-books.html

Or this?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/1975-75-Ford-Truck-Shop-Service-Repair-Manual_W0QQitemZ300106172120QQihZ020QQcategoryZ34221QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

But it shouldn’t be hard to find a manual but you may have to shell out a few coins to get one.

Dan.

1997 Ford F-350

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Question From Buttermaker on 1997 Ford F-350

How much different is the 1997 Ford F-350 Powerstroke, from the 1996 same model? I have been unsuccessful in trying to find a repair manual for this truck.

Response From way2old Top Rated Answer

Check ebay for ford repair dvd. There is usually a lot of them there.

Ford Taurus

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Question From RyanU on Ford Taurus

Hi folks:

I have a 2001 Ford Taurus SES.

The fan that controls the AC, heater, defroster ONLY works on HIGH. Weird. I can't tell by the owner's manual what the story might be. Any help on this?

Thanks!

Response From way2old

More than likely it is the blower resistor. Usually it fails in the high default position. I believe it is located under the dash on the passenger side on the bottom of the heater box. Look to the center of the car. It should have a small wiring connection on it with 5 or 6 wires going to it. It is held in place with 3 small screws.

Response From RyanU

Excellent, I'll check it out, thanks!

Response From way2old

Sorry, there are 2 small screws holding it in place. It probably has 4 wires. If you look under the passenger side and towards the center hump, you will see it. It is about 2 inches by 1 1/2 inches.

Response From carjunky

You may be way2old... but it seems your brain is working well... How long have you work on cars?

Response From way2old Top Rated Answer

Don't tell anyone, but it was somewhere around 1966. Been doing Fords since 1984. Lost a lot of the printed info on older Fords over the years, but have all the newer info, 1996 and up.

Response From carjunky

As with the documents, I suspect you could handle most cars pre 96 from retained knowledge, and may need to look up a few repairs on the newer cars during repairs right?

Response From way2old

Constantly have my nose in the repair DVD's I have. With a little over 1200 vehicles, I can't remember all of it. What were we tslking about???

Response From carjunky

lol.... I ruined the post by asking how long you work on fords....

I almost got way off topic and had to repost this second have of my post.

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