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Delphi
2007 Chrysler Aspen Throttle Position Sensor 8 Cyl 4.7L Delphi

P311-28377CD    W0133-1675678  New

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Delphi Throttle Position Sensor
Brand: Delphi
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Vehicle Block Engine CID CC
2007 - Chrysler Aspen V 8 Cyl 4.7L 287 -
Mikuni
2004 Chrysler Sebring Throttle Position Sensor Mikuni

P311-1A3D9EA    W0133-1671781  New

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Mikuni Throttle Position Sensor
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
Brand: Mikuni
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Vehicle Body Engine VIN
2004 - Chrysler Sebring Coupe H
Delphi
1994 Chrysler LeBaron Throttle Position Sensor 4 Cyl 2.5L Delphi

P311-5C1E8F6    SS10482  New

TH143 , 14106 , EC1089 , 4626051 , 213840 , 4761871 , 4637072 , 141-610 , TH145 , 319054 , 2132095 , 5234904 , 200-1007 , 213835 , 141610 , 4626 051 , FE1089 , 213836 , TPS118 , 4778463 , 219054 , TPS318 , 5S5085

Qty:
$43.55
  • Throttle Position Sensor
  • Delphi is an OEM supplier
  • Designed digital output for maximum signal to noise ratio. Not impacted by temperature changes and provide robust, long-lasting sensor protection. Manufactured to meet or exceed OE requirements.
Brand: Delphi
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Block Engine CID CC
1994 - Chrysler LeBaron L 4 Cyl 2.5L 153 2507
Standard Ignition
1992 Chrysler Imperial Throttle Position Sensor Standard Ignition

P311-06E2ED1    TH136  New

141-608 , 2-99051 , 5S5086 , 4759001 , 14107 , 7245 , 4605103 , EC3060 , 71-7582 , 5234901 , 89054565 , 141-611 , 213-2669 , SS10376 , TPS316

Qty:
$45.17
Standard Ignition Throttle Position Sensor
  • Throttle Position Sensor
  • Product Attributes:
    • Connector Gender: Female
    • Connector Shape: Rectangular
    • Terminal Type: Blade
  • Our Throttle Position Sensors maintain specific installed outputs to match OE rather than adjustable consolidated designs. Circuits are printed on flexible polyimide film or ceramic-based substrates for excellent dimensional stability preventing electrical performance drift. Noble palladium/gold/platinum alloys provide low contact resistance for extended service life. Each TPS uses integral rotor bearings and return springs for easy installation. Each sensor undergoes rigorous end-of-line testing with thousands of data points to validate output voltages for optimum performance and trouble-free operation. Featuring the broadest sensor coverage in the market, we meet the service professionals needs with the highest quality product every time he opens the box. As a global manufacturer of emission components, complete quality control is maintained through the manufacturing process from componentry to finished product.
Brand: Standard Ignition
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Vehicle
1992 - Chrysler Imperial
Standard Ignition
1991 Chrysler Dynasty Throttle Position Sensor 4 Cyl 2.5L Standard Ignition

P311-504E607    TH143  New

4761871 , 5S5085 , 213-2095 , 4626051 , EC3313 , 71-7581 , 89053175 , 4637072 , 5234904 , 2L9 , 2-99053 , TPS319 , TPS318 , 4761871AB , 05234904 , SS10482 , 4636999

Qty:
$39.87
Standard Ignition Throttle Position Sensor
  • Throttle Position Sensor
  • Product Attributes:
    • Connector Gender: Female
  • Our Throttle Position Sensors maintain specific installed outputs to match OE rather than adjustable consolidated designs. Circuits are printed on flexible polyimide film or ceramic-based substrates for excellent dimensional stability preventing electrical performance drift. Noble palladium/gold/platinum alloys provide low contact resistance for extended service life. Each TPS uses integral rotor bearings and return springs for easy installation. Each sensor undergoes rigorous end-of-line testing with thousands of data points to validate output voltages for optimum performance and trouble-free operation. Featuring the broadest sensor coverage in the market, we meet the service professionals needs with the highest quality product every time he opens the box. As a global manufacturer of emission components, complete quality control is maintained through the manufacturing process from componentry to finished product.
Brand: Standard Ignition
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Block Engine CID CC
1991 - Chrysler Dynasty L 4 Cyl 2.5L 153 2507
Standard Ignition
2007 Chrysler Aspen Throttle Position Sensor 8 Cyl 4.7L Standard Ignition

P311-5AFD0C0    TH190  New

89054591 , 213-2719 , 38134 , 14098 , 200-91103 , TPS333VC , 71-7597 , TPS341 , 213-2695 , 2-99058 , 89054615 , TPS333 , 4882 219AB , 977-520 , EC3208 , 4882219 , 141-620 , SS10406 , TPS350 , 5S5101 , 601-0520 , 56027940

Qty:
$44.61
Standard Ignition Throttle Position Sensor
  • Throttle Position Sensor
  • Product Attributes:
    • Connector Gender: Female
    • Notes: Includes O-ring
    • Terminal Type: Blade
  • Our Throttle Position sensors are made by implementing a proprietary sliding contact technology, based on multiple precious metal contacts riding on polymer thick film resisters to offer a longer working life than competitor sensors on the market today. Each of our sensors is provided with integral rotor bearings and return springs which allow for easy installation when compared to the spring-less designs currently available in the aftermarket, which rely on worn throttle body bearings and return springs to set the correct output voltage. Our sensors maintain specific installed outputs to match the OE rather than using adjustable, consolidated designs. Engine management systems require reliable connections in order for sensors to reach the optimum performance level. We manufacture our sensors to ensure that both external and internal connections remain reliable in order to maintain these requirements through the product life. Each sensor that we offer endures rigorous end of line testing which involves many thousands of data points to validate output voltages and to ensure that each part meets linearity specifications that are expected by the engine management system in your vehicle.
Brand: Standard Ignition
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Block Engine CID CC
2007 - Chrysler Aspen V 8 Cyl 4.7L 287 -
Standard Ignition
2000 Chrysler Grand Voyager Throttle Position Sensor 6 Cyl 3.3L Standard Ignition

P311-0760CCB    TH214  New

5045 029AA , SS10414 , EC3205 , 213-2709 , TPS331 , 5S5090 , 141-624 , 71-7586 , 4606196 , 89054605

Qty:
$67.76
Standard Ignition Throttle Position Sensor
  • Throttle Position Sensor
  • Product Attributes:
    • Connector Gender: Female
    • Terminal Type: Blade
  • Our Throttle Position Sensors maintain specific installed outputs to match OE rather than adjustable consolidated designs. Circuits are printed on flexible polyimide film or ceramic-based substrates for excellent dimensional stability preventing electrical performance drift. Noble palladium/gold/platinum alloys provide low contact resistance for extended service life. Each TPS uses integral rotor bearings and return springs for easy installation. Each sensor undergoes rigorous end-of-line testing with thousands of data points to validate output voltages for optimum performance and trouble-free operation. Featuring the broadest sensor coverage in the market, we meet the service professionals needs with the highest quality product every time he opens the box. As a global manufacturer of emission components, complete quality control is maintained through the manufacturing process from componentry to finished product.
Brand: Standard Ignition
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Block Engine CID CC
2000 - Chrysler Grand Voyager V 6 Cyl 3.3L 201 3301
Standard Ignition
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser Throttle Position Sensor Standard Ignition

P311-0DAA47B    TH215  New

TPS329 , 89054606 , 71-7583 , EC3206 , 141-625 , SS10415 , 14989 , 213-2710 , 5S5087 , 4606197

Qty:
$62.50
Standard Ignition Throttle Position Sensor
  • Throttle Position Sensor
  • Product Attributes:
    • Connector Gender: Female
    • Terminal Type: Blade
  • Our Throttle Position Sensors maintain specific installed outputs to match OE rather than adjustable consolidated designs. Circuits are printed on flexible polyimide film or ceramic-based substrates for excellent dimensional stability preventing electrical performance drift. Noble palladium/gold/platinum alloys provide low contact resistance for extended service life. Each TPS uses integral rotor bearings and return springs for easy installation. Each sensor undergoes rigorous end-of-line testing with thousands of data points to validate output voltages for optimum performance and trouble-free operation. Featuring the broadest sensor coverage in the market, we meet the service professionals needs with the highest quality product every time he opens the box. As a global manufacturer of emission components, complete quality control is maintained through the manufacturing process from componentry to finished product.
Brand: Standard Ignition
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle
2001 - Chrysler PT Cruiser
Standard Ignition
2000 Chrysler Grand Voyager Throttle Position Sensor 6 Cyl 3.0L Standard Ignition

P311-54202CE    TH264  New

89054617 , 213-2721 , SS10483 , 71-7931 , EC3264 , 71-7598 , 200-1105 , 4686360AC , 5S5102 , 4686360 , 4686360AB , 141-7095 , 5S7111 , TPS4210 , 14972 , TPS335

Qty:
$25.18
Standard Ignition Throttle Position Sensor
  • Throttle Position Sensor
  • Product Attributes:
    • Connector Gender: Female
    • Terminal Type: Blade
  • Our Throttle Position Sensors maintain specific installed outputs to match OE rather than adjustable consolidated designs. Circuits are printed on flexible polyimide film or ceramic-based substrates for excellent dimensional stability preventing electrical performance drift. Noble palladium/gold/platinum alloys provide low contact resistance for extended service life. Each TPS uses integral rotor bearings and return springs for easy installation. Each sensor undergoes rigorous end-of-line testing with thousands of data points to validate output voltages for optimum performance and trouble-free operation. Featuring the broadest sensor coverage in the market, we meet the service professionals needs with the highest quality product every time he opens the box. As a global manufacturer of emission components, complete quality control is maintained through the manufacturing process from componentry to finished product.
Brand: Standard Ignition
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Block Engine CID CC
2000 - Chrysler Grand Voyager V 6 Cyl 3.0L 181 2972
True Tech
2007 Chrysler Aspen Throttle Position Sensor 8 Cyl 4.7L True Tech

P311-2A594B4    TH190T  New

TPS333 , 89054615 , TPS341 , 200-91103 , 213-2719 , TPS350 , 213-2695 , 14098 , SS10406 , 89054591 , TPS333VC , 5S5101 , 977-520 , 2-99058 , 38134 , 71-7597 , 601-0520 , 141-620

Qty:
$34.10
True Tech Throttle Position Sensor
  • Throttle Position Sensor
  • Product Attributes:
    • Connector Gender: Female
    • Terminal Type: Blade
  • Made from quality components for dependability.
Brand: True Tech
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Block Engine CID CC
2007 - Chrysler Aspen V 8 Cyl 4.7L 287 -

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2002 Chrysler T&C runs rough,stalls. blows smoke!!!

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Question From moparcolt on 2002 Chrysler T&C runs rough,stalls. blows smoke!!!

I have a 2002 Chrysler Town & country, 3.8L, 112,000 miles

my father in law gave my wife this van and all was good for a few weeks then it started to act up. It stalled a few times, but I didn't think much of it. Then one of the kids left the door ajar or a light on or something, not sure I wasn't with her and she had to have the car jumped to get it started. I am not sure this is a factor, It seemed to be fine.
SO we drove it some more, took it to a concert in the park, and when we went to go home I started it up and it was missing,and stalled when I tried tto go. Tried again and I was able to keep it running (really rough) but wouldn't idle very good.
So I checked the codes and there were like 10 so I unhooked the battery and reset it. Then I came up with about 5 P1684,P1478, Battery related, P0122 TPS low, P0118 temp sensor, and P0108 Map sensor.
I tried replacing the Map sensor and coolant temp sensor buty it still does'nt run any betterbut now only pulled 4 codes the same P1684, P1478, P0118, and a new one P0206 Injector 6.

Any Ideas? where should I start?
I can't sfford to pay to get it checked, Or to just keep trying different parts?

Thanks for any ideas you may have!
Chris

Response From Guest

Definitely keep blindly throwing parts at it until you run out of money or give up. Not only will the parts stores love you, you will also introduce a whole bunch of new variables which will increase the difficulty for the professional you eventually take it to to find the original problem plus any you added to it.

That was my sarcastic answer but it's true. The engine computer has to update its fuel metering tables it has in memory every time you replace a sensor. When diagnostic trouble codes are stored, the computer is programmed to ignore certain criteria, and it will not perform some sensor tests and it will not allow some diagnostic codes to be set until other codes are erased and their cause(s) repaired.

Every time you replace a part, you risk bending a pin in the connector, pulling a wire out of its pin, installing a defective new part, and lots of other things. Professionals all have stories they can share of things they've done so don't think it can't happen to careful do-it-yourselfers.

Blindly replacing parts without properly diagnosing the system is the most expensive and least effective way of repairing your vehicle. Sensors don't fail that often, especially five or ten at once. When you have so many codes at once, look for something they have in common. Based on the "TPS Low" code, I would start by looking at the three wires on it. Measure the voltages on them with the ignition switch turned on. One of them must have 5 volts. If it's missing, suspect a broken or grounded wire or a shorted sensor. A shorted sensor is not common. The wire is most likely to be open where multiple wires are spliced together. I would lean toward a wire being grounded because the coolant temperature sensor also runs off the 5 volt supply, but not on that same feed wire. If the wire was open, the coolant temp. sensor would still be working and would not set a code. The diagnostic codes do not indicate which sensor is defective; they indicate which CIRCUIT has the problem or the improper results the computer saw from a sensor.

caradiodoc

Response From Hammer Time

caradiodoc

If you would like to give advice at the site, we would love to have you but please register and log in so you can be identified.

Response From moparcolt

I checked for voltage before I replaced thr Map Sensor It has 3 wires. I was thinking the center one is a ground? anyone know for sure which wire should have 5 volts on it? I got like 4.8 or something like that on the two outside wires and nothing on the center, but between either outside wire and the center I had 4.8v

I called on the TPS sensor and the Napa manager said he only showed one sensor. I replaced the one with two wires behind the stat housing under/behind the coils. Is there another? where is it located?

I tried to start again and got a couple ,more codes total 6 now but 2 seem like nothing

P1684, P0122, P0118, P0206, P1478. P1598

Thanks for the help so far.

Chris

Response From Hammer Time

Response From Guest

do you have a pic like that for the MAP sensor?
also is there a second temp sensor somewhere? one for the guage and one for the computer?

Chris

Response From Hammer Time

Yes, there are 2 sensors. The temp sensor for the computer is under the coil and has 2 wires, one 2 tone green and the violet and orange

Response From moparcolt Top Rated Answer

I had a friend who is a chrysler tech stop by and hook it up to a scanner. He thinks it might be the 5 volt supply wire. It is pink and yellow, runs from control module to themap sensor, throttle position sensor , temp sensor and a couple of others. So it looks like I need to gey into the wiring harness, Has anyone had any luck finding broken wires in the harness? what should I look for? where should I start?

Chris

Response From moparcolt

I traced the wire from the splice in the harness where it goes to each senser back to the control module up by the battery, It looks fine, I checked voltage at the module and it was only 3.5V

could it be the control module?

If I cut the wir a few inches from the module and checked the voltage again would I get the same voltage? Would cuttinig the sensors loose change anything?

Chris

Response From Hammer Time

Unplug all the sensors when you test that. One shorted sensor will pull all the supply voltages down and could be the actual problem. Plug them back in one at a time but remember to clear the codes after.

Response From moparcolt

which sensors do I need to unplug? I know the map, Throttle Position, amd coolant temp, and the other two I think are battery temp(where is that) and something with the air conditioning? don't know where that one is either?

chris

Response From Hammer Time

Add TPS to this
The coolant temp and battery do not run off the 5v ref

Response From moparcolt

where is the A/C preasure sensor located? does the knock sensor work off the 5 volt Supply/reference signal?, it only has 2 wires?

Chris

Response From Hammer Time

No, the knock sensor doesn't use 5v.

The A/C switch is right near the right side strut tower next to the high side service port.

Response From moparcolt

so I disconnected the sensors and checked voltage at all of them. I got 3.8 volts all the wires look good.
I have eliminated everything except the CPU.
How do I check it?

The battery was low, so I hooked my batt`ery charger to it and something on the intake manifold started humming. anyone had this happen?

chris

Response From Hammer Time

You can't do any voltage tests unless you have a fully charged battery

Response From moparcolt

I kmow, I changed the battery, the one in the car seemed like it had a dead cell or something so I replaced it with one that was good and reading 12+ volts, still got 3.8 volts , also had to change the plugs because the ones in the motor had become so fouled from the over rich condition. It would start again but still runs rich and rough.
It's got to be the computer, I have ruled everything else out as far as I can tell.

Anything else I can check?

Chris

Response From Guest

still omnly getting 3.8 volts with everything unplugged and fully charged battery! Is there anything else that can cause the low voltage? does it share anyother circuitry with another 5V supply to anything else? aer there any other 5 volt reference signals to anything else?
Do I assume at some point that I need to replace the computer?
That is about where I am at, unless there is something else to do I think I need to order a computer or else have this one rebuilt! any input guys?

Thanks, Chris

Response From Loren Champlain Sr

mopar; Your symptoms indicate an over-fueling condition. The coolant temp sensor tells the computer engine temp and the PCM delivers fuel accordingly. If the CTS is telling the computer that the engine is cold, it will command extra fuel.
Your engine has two sensors. One for the guage and one for the computer. Be certain that you replaced the correct one. PO206 is for the #6 injector. Although I've never run into this one, could be that that injector is shorted and staying 'wide' open, causing the over-fueling. Assuming that the CTS is not the problem, you'll need to ohm check the injector(s). The resistance should be 10-16 ohms. You will have to remove the plenum to gain access.

Older Ram Van troubles. Need advice!

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Question From Brady Jenn on Older Ram Van troubles. Need advice!

Hello!

I have a:
1994 dodge ram van b350 5.9L
150k miles

The vehicle has run like a top ever since i bought it, till now.

From the beginning....for a couple weeks i noticed the engine turning over for longer and longer before starting after being shut off for a while. Usually fires up instantly. Then i was stuck in traffic one day at the end of a 2 hour drive and the van seemed to hesitate when i tried accelerating. Pulled off highway and it promptly died. Would turn over but not start back up. 10 mins later started up and took me home just fine. Took it on numerous short trips to the store no problems but Replaced the ECC, as was advised by a friend, before risking a long trip. After installing new ECC i took it about 20 mins down the highway, ran great. Reached destination, turned off engine let sit about an hour. Started up to go home and drove about 10 blocks before dying at a redlight.

Gets weird from here...

The van would turn over and over but not start. Then all of a sudden it would not turn over at all making no solenoid sound or anything every time i tried....30 mins later the car turns over and starts just fine. I drive home.

Since getting the van home i have changed the spark plugs. Now the engine will start right up after sitting for a while, it will idle fine and rev fine for a few minutes then make weird noises and die. Will turn over and start then promptly die again only to no longer start at all until is left sitting for a while.


Anyone have any thoughts?

I have tested the TPS and it is only reading .01 to .04 volts. Its grounding tested fine. Seems like i need a new TPS but these symptons seem like something more than that....

Response From Tom Greenleaf

First clean up the battery cable connections at both ends of each. There's no reason to bother with TPS or other things if you can't get the solenoid to click for just the starter!


Check fuel pressure and leak down, should hold pressure with key on engine off for some time,


T

Response From Brady Jenn

The ECC is the electronic control computer. Was advised to try replacing that first because they were always a week link in the older dodges.

I dont have any error codes or anything like that cuz its a 1994. Wasnt till 1996 that dodge implemented a digital diagnostic system.

Im going to check the fuel pressure and leak down this afternoon. Battery connections are fine and has not gone dead once. Thats why it was weird that 2nd time the car quit on me, there was 20 min period where nothing would happen when i tried to turn the engine over. Only to fire up like normal 10 mins later.

Thanks for the responses!

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Does this have a working "Check Engine Light" = CEL? Put key to run but not running and bulbs should light as a bulb test.


Then follow instructions Discretesignals gave you a few posts back for blinks. Converts blinks to #s and those are the codes - yes even before OBDII of the '96 model and up.
It should at least give a code that it's communicating - if not go from there,


T

Response From Brady Jenn

Ok yes there is a check engine light on. Key on off on off on did not make it blink however.

Response From Tom Greenleaf Top Rated Answer

Long but try this if it pastes........




Easy step by step guide on how to gather and define Chrysler OBD1 trouble codes, this information is for vehicles made before 1996.

Difficulty Level - 1

Step 1 - To start gathering trouble codes turn the ignition key on off in rapid succession five times with the cycle ending in the "ON" position.

Step 2 - Once this activation has started the check engine light will start to flash, the first set of check engine light flashes will be the first digit of the two digit code.

Step 3 - After the check engine light pauses for a short time it will start to blink again starting the second digit identification and completing the code's second number. If additional trouble codes are stored in the computer the first digit will begin to flash, and then the second digit. For example: check engine light flashes four times, pauses and then flashes three more times, the code is 43.

Step 4 - The check engine light will flash five and then five (55) meaning the code gathering is over. The system will flash 12 if there are no codes stored in the computer's memory.

Step 5 - To clear codes disconnect the negative battery terminal for 30 seconds and reconnect.


Domestic Code Definitions


11 - Camshaft signal or ignition signal, no reference signal during cranking.

12 - Memory to controller has been cleared within 50-100 engine starts.

13 - Map sensor not detecting any change during test.

14 - Map voltage too high or too low.

15 - Vehicle speed sensor, no signal detected.

16 - Knock sensor circuit. open or short detected.

17 - Low engine temperature, possible thermostat fault.

21 - Oxygen sensor signal, neither rich or lean detected.

22 - Coolant sensor voltage low.

23 - Air charge voltage high/low detected.

24 - Throttle position sensor voltage high/low.

25 - Automatic idle speed motor driver circuit, short or open detected.

26 - Injectors 1,2,3 peak current not reached.

27 - Injector control circuit does not respond to control signal.

31 - Purge solenoid circuit, open or short detected.

32 - EGR solenoid circuit, open or short detected.

33 - A/C clutch relay circuit, open or short detected.

34 - Speed control servo solenoid, open or short detected.

35 - Radiator fan control relay circuit, open or short detected.

36 - Waste-gate solenoid, open or short detected.

37 - Part throttle unlock(PTU) circuit, open or short detected.

41 - Charging system circuit not responding to control signal.

42 - Fuel pump or auto shutdown (ASD) relay voltage sensed at controller.

43 - Ignition control circuit not responding.

44 - Battery temperature voltage circuit problem.

45 - Turbo boost limit exceeded-map sensor detects over-boost.

46 - Battery voltage too high.

47 - Battery voltage too low.

51 - Air/fuel at limit.

52 - Logic module fault.

53 - Internal controller failure.

54 - Camshaft reference circuit not detected.

55 - End of message.

61 - BARO read solenoid, open or short detected.

62 - EMR mileage not stored.

63 - Eprom write denied.

64 - Flex fuel sensor signal out of range.

65 - Manifold tuning valve, open or short detected.

66 - No ccd messages.

76 - Ballast bypass relay, open or short detected.

77 - Speed control relay, open or short detected.



Import Code Definition

1 - Oxygen sensor.

2 - Crank engine sensor.

3 - Air flow sensor.

4 - Barometric pressure sensor.

5 - Throttle position sensor.

6 - Motor position sensor.

7 - Engine coolant temperature sensor.

8 - No.1 cylinder tdc sensor.

12 - Air flow sensor.

13 - Air temperature sensor.

15 - SC motor position sensor.

21 - Engine coolant temperature sensor.

22 - Crank angle sensor.

24 - Vehicle speed sensor.

25 - Barometric pressure sensor.

31 - Knock sensor.

32 - Manifold pressure sensor.

36 - Ignition timing adjustment signal.

39 - Oxygen sensor.

41 - Injector circuit

42 - Fuel pump.

43 - EGR failure.

44 - Ignition coil circuit failure.

52 - Ignition coil circuit failure.

53 - Ignition coil circuit failure.

55 - IAC valve position sensor.

59 - Heated oxygen sensor.

61 - Transaxle control unit cable.

62 - Warm up control valve position sensor



Helpful Information

Chrysler, Dodge and Plymouth automobiles have a diagnostic trouble code retrieval method, unlike Gm and Ford which have a data port connector to gather codes.

Response From Brady Jenn

Ok awesome! Had no idea this was a thing. Wasnt on/offing the key enough times. I got the engine light to blink 12 and 24. The 12 i think is just confirming there was a new ECC installed and the 24 is low TPS voltage which is what i tested for and found out at first, question is what caused my tps to read low voltage? It is getting good ground and reads a change when throttle is applied but is maxing out at .04 volts. Way to low

Thanks all for the good help

Response From Tom Greenleaf

OK - Just because of age and any voltage reading on any wire check the connections on stuff like this first. I tend to like WD-40 for some first or only, then dielectric grease to follow up. Heat, dirt, age all get involved THEN if you even can know the info is good.


Wiggle test wires and see if your readings change?


Do remember the #s are the circuit noted not telling you what to do about it. TPS you should get a sweep with a multi-meter nice and smooth. Some things you can check like that or dig out exact specs for assorted things,


T

Response From Brady Jenn

Ok double checked all conections. Tps still reading .01 to .04 volts. Way low. I already got a new tps (autozone across street from my house). Can i just take out old part plug in new one? Do i have to disconnect the battery or reset computer or anything?

Response From Tom Greenleaf

I didn't see anything on that list showing a problem with TPS circuit and can't confirm accuracy of that list either. If you don't wish to test your voltage of TPS (throttle position sensor) by moving throttle and looking at voltage sweep when turning throttle go ahead but no guarantee that has anything to do with it. If cheap enough and you are willing guess I can't stop you.


Generally if you reset codes the real ones will stay there. If you've been unplugging things that will mess up accuracy moreso ont OBDII systems.


There's only so much help you get from codes on OBD1 - know that.
Weak with Mopar. I think repeating and ending with "12" may just mean it's communicating with GM which makes no sense but I forget too just off the top of my head?


T

Response From Brady Jenn

I did test the voltage sweep with the throttle on the tps. It registered .01 closed and swept smoothly to .04 wide open. However i should have at least 1 full volt to 5 according to what ive read.

The only thing ive been unplugging is the tps and ECC (when new part was installed)

Understood that that list may not be accurate but the number 24 corresponded to low tps voltage. I just installed the new tps and it still tests low voltage on my multimeter however the check engine light no longer blinks the 24 code. Just 12 now..weird

Car fires right up now but doesnt rev smoothly and pops sometimes...


Thanksagain!

Response From Hammer Time

It should range from around .4-.6 at idle up to just short of 5V at full throttle so yes it does sound like you have a bad TPS.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

You've run across as much as I have for this vintage Mopar. TPS is sensing throttle position by its name. VSS could be a combo of vehicle speed for shifting, timing, actual vehicle speed for speedometer (doubt it but not sure on that) and would think a failure there would be about shifting more than anything plain running. If wires crossed or touched all bets off.


I'd probably ohm test the TPS without empowering the truck at all. You already know the range it should be and a new one if it does the same you just have to find where it's not getting thru.


Plain plug ins don't like too much unplugging and re-plugging in. Ones with a bail to hold together frequently break allowing corrosion or disconnect. Some pins will fold over and so on. Tons older than this plain wire insulation gives out if you bend it much at all a real pest.
Reminds me of strings of holiday lights for any holiday that claim bulbs last 100,000 hours but the wires last one season!

T

Response From Discretesignals

What is an ECC?

Check engine light on? Before you disconnect the battery check for trouble codes. Key on-off-on-off-on. The check engine light will flash any trouble codes stored. They are two digit codes.

Response From Hammer Time

Electronic Computer Command?

1991 dodge dynasty

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Question From Guest on 1991 dodge dynasty

1991 dodge dynasty(k car) has 3.2lt. had someone short computer and computer was replaced and now won't idle when cold and when hot stall on exceleration or decelleration. i have no idia what is causing this and hoping someone can point the direction. ran exalent before was shorted to computer. now new computer and runs realy rough.

Response From Hammer Time

Did you instal a "new" computer or a used computer?
Is the check engine light coming on at all?
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Response From Guest

Yes, I installed a used computer on my 1992 dodge
I believe the the check engine light is on. Thanks for coming back to me on this problem.

Response From Hammer Time Top Rated Answer

There is no way of knowing if you even have the right computer installed. If the check engine light is on, then the best place to start is reading the stored codes.

Diagnostic Trouble Codes - 1991
Chrysler

11
Engine has not been cranked since battery was disconnected.
12
Memory Standby power lost.
13
MAP sensor pneumatic circuit.
14
MAP sensor electrical circuit.
15
Vehicle speed/distance sensor.
16
Loss of battery voltage sense.
17
Engine running too cool.
21
Oxygen sensor circuit.
22 Coolant temperature sensor circuit.
23
Throttle body temperature sensor circuit.
24
Throttle position sensor.
25
AIS motor driven circuit.
26
Peak injector current not reached.
27
Fault in injector driver interface circuit.
31
Purge solenoid circuit.
32
On Calif. models, EGR diagnosis.
33
A/C cutout relay circuit.
34
Speed control solenoid driver circuit.
35 Fan control relay circuit.
37
Fault in part throttle unlock solenoid driver circuit.
41
Charging system excess or no field circuit.
42
ASD relay circuit.
43 Fault in ignition coil control circuit.
44
Loss of FJ2 to logic board.
46 Battery voltage too high.
47 Battery voltage too low.
51 Oxygen feedback system stuck at lean position.
52
Oxygen feedback system stuck at rich position.
53
Internal logic module problems.
54
Indicates a fault in the distributor high data rate pickup circuit.
55
Completion of fault code display.
62
Indicates unsuccessful attempt to update EMR mileage.
63
Unsuccessful attempt to write to an EEPROM location by the controller.
77
Speed control power relay circuit.


To call up codes, cycle ignition switch on, off, on, off and on within 5 seconds. Stored codes will be indicated by flashes of the power loss/check engine lamp. The codes will be indicated as two digit numbers, with a four second pause between codes. An example of a code is as follows:

  • Power Loss/Check Engine Lamp illuminated for approximately 2 to 3 seconds as a bulb check, then turns off.
  • Lamp flashes 2 times, pauses, then flashes 6 times.
  • Lamp pauses for approximately 4 seconds.
  • Lamp flashes 3 times, pauses, then flashes 1 time.

  • This would indicate that code 26 and 31 are stored. The lamp will continue to flash until all stored codes have been displayed.
    Once the lamp starts flashing the stored fault codes, it cannot be stopped. If a code is missed, the entire procedure must be repeated. The lamp will not indicate if oxygen feedback system is switching lean-rich or if idle motor system is operational. The lamp also cannot be used to perform actuation test mode, sensor test mode or engine running test mode.
    After all fault codes have been displayed, then power loss/check engine lamp can be used to verify switch function. The lamp will turn on and off as the switch is turned on and off.