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P311-5B7707A    46761  New

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  • Single Exhaust; w/o Resonator; If welded assembly, replace all required parts.
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    • Diámetro de entrada: 2.000
    • Finish: Aluminized
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    • Inlet Connection Type: Pipe Connection
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    • Max Year Covered: 1997
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    • Most Popular Make / Model: Mercury Grand Marquis
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    • Product Description: Tail Pipe
    • Product Grade: Economy
    • Total Part VIO: 419776
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1991 - Lincoln Town Car V 8 Cyl 4.6L 281 -
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    • Finish: Aluminized
    • Fitment: Direct Fit
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    • Inlet Diameter: 2.000
    • Inlet Diameter Designation: Outside Diameter
    • Max Year Covered: 1997
    • Min Year Covered: 1990
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    • Most Popular Year: 1997
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    • Outlet Diameter Designation: Outside Diameter
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1990 - Lincoln Town Car Right V 8 Cyl 5.0L 302 -
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P311-0999A6D    55424  New

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    • Max Year Covered: 2008
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    • Most Popular Make / Model: Ford F-150
    • Most Popular Year: 2004
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P311-373DBFF    55186  New

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    • Max Year Covered: 2001
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1999 - Lincoln Navigator V 8 Cyl 5.4L 330 -
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P311-4B08D28    55172  New

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    • Max Year Covered: 1998
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    • Most Popular Year: 1998
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    • Overall Length: 50.000
    • Product Grade: Economy
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1998 - Lincoln Navigator V 8 Cyl 5.4L 330 -
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1980 Lincoln Mark VI Exhaust Tail Pipe 8 Cyl 5.8L Walker - Walker Tail Pipe

P311-1AFE86E    46539  New

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  • Single Exhaust
  • Walker Tail Pipe
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    • Class: C
    • Diámetro de entrada: 2.000
    • Finish: Aluminized
    • Inlet Connection Type: Pipe Connection
    • Inlet Diameter: 2.000
    • Inlet Diameter Designation: Outside Diameter
    • Max Year Covered: 1988
    • Min Year Covered: 1979
    • Most Popular Make / Model: Ford Ltd
    • Most Popular Year: 1988
    • Outlet Connection Type: Spout
    • Outlet Diameter: 2.000
    • Outlet Diameter Designation: Outside Diameter
    • Overall Length: 62.250
    • Pipe Diameter: 2.000
    • Pipe Thickness: 0.050
    • Product Description: Tailpipe
    • Product Grade: Economy
    • Total Part VIO: 100501
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1980 - Lincoln Mark VI V 8 Cyl 5.8L 351 5753
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1988 Lincoln Town Car Exhaust Tail Pipe 8 Cyl 5.0L Walker - Walker Tail Pipe

P311-1AFE86E    46539  New

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Walker Exhaust Tail Pipe
  • Single Exhaust; Design one w/Formed Bracket.
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  • Product Attributes:
    • Class: C
    • Diámetro de entrada: 2.000
    • Finish: Aluminized
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    • Max Year Covered: 1988
    • Min Year Covered: 1979
    • Most Popular Make / Model: Ford Ltd
    • Most Popular Year: 1988
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    • Outlet Diameter: 2.000
    • Outlet Diameter Designation: Outside Diameter
    • Overall Length: 62.250
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    • Product Description: Tailpipe
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1988 - Lincoln Town Car V 8 Cyl 5.0L 302 -
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  • Dual Exhaust; Design one w/Formed Bracket.
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    • Diámetro de entrada: 2.000
    • Finish: Aluminized
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    • Max Year Covered: 1988
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    • Most Popular Make / Model: Ford Ltd
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    • Product Description: Tailpipe
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    • Total Part VIO: 100501
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1986 - Lincoln Town Car Right V 8 Cyl 5.0L 302 -
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1980 Lincoln Continental Exhaust Tail Pipe 8 Cyl 5.8L Walker - Walker Tail Pipe

P311-1AFE86E    46539  New

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Walker Exhaust Tail Pipe
  • Walker Tail Pipe
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    • Finish: Aluminized
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    • Outlet Connection Type: Spout
    • Outlet Diameter: 2.000
    • Outlet Diameter Designation: Outside Diameter
    • Overall Length: 62.250
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    • Product Description: Tailpipe
    • Product Grade: Economy
    • Total Part VIO: 100501
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1980 - Lincoln Continental V 8 Cyl 5.8L 351 5753
Walker
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Walker Exhaust Tail Pipe  Right
  • Dual Exhaust
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    • Diámetro de entrada: 2.000
    • Finish: Aluminized
    • Inlet Connection Type: Pipe Connection
    • Inlet Diameter: 2.000
    • Inlet Diameter Designation: Outside Diameter
    • Max Year Covered: 1988
    • Min Year Covered: 1979
    • Most Popular Make / Model: Ford Ltd
    • Most Popular Year: 1988
    • Outlet Connection Type: Spout
    • Outlet Diameter: 2.000
    • Outlet Diameter Designation: Outside Diameter
    • Overall Length: 62.250
    • Pipe Diameter: 2.000
    • Pipe Thickness: 0.050
    • Product Description: Tailpipe
    • Product Grade: Economy
    • Total Part VIO: 100501
Brand: Walker
Position: Right
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1983 - Lincoln Mark VI Right V 8 Cyl 5.0L 302 -

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My Little Chariot Failed! P0174 & P0171

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Question From Blessedpilot on My Little Chariot Failed! P0174 & P0171

Hi! This is my first post here so be gentle!!!

I have a 1997 Lincoln Town Car that I tried to get inspected but it failed due to the "check eng light" being on . The codes I was given were P0174 (syst too lean bank 2) and P0171 (syst too lean bank 1).

The inspector reset the check eng light and all codes were erased. He said to drive it for 60 miles or so and see if the light comes back on. He said if it does, it might need a new fuel filter or it might need to have the fuel syst serviced. I've driven it about 40 mi so far and the check eng light has not illuminated. I even stopped my Autozone to see if any codes would show on their tester. None did.

My question is, if the light does not re-illuminate in another 20 or 30 miles, should I take it back up to them and tell them the light did not come back on and to reinspect it? Or, should I take it somewhere else (before the light comes back on) and not even mention that it failed before to see if it will pass this time? I guess maybe if I took it somewhere else and perhaps it showed up in the computer somehow that it failed somewhere else, I could tell them that I took care of the problem myself. Right?

Thanks from Texas!!

Response From Loren Champlain Sr

In WA, as long as the readiness monitors have completed, and no codes stored, it should pass. WA will allow one readiness monitor to be incomplete, and the EVAP is usually the last one to complete. Not sure about your state.
And, yes, a plugged fuel filter can cause a lean condition; There are also, other reasons. If the CEL comes back on, you really should address the problem. Running too lean is not a good thing.

Response From way2old

See if you can get someone to test your fuel pressure. If pressure is low (plugged filter--weak pump) it can give those codes. Also the MAF could cause those codes. A vacuum leak that affects both sides can also be the cause. Good luck.

Response From Blessedpilot

Thanks for the suggestions. Where would be the best place to take it to test the fuel pressure? Just a local mechanic or can most oil change places do that sort of thing? Is there an easy way to do it myself?

Thanks again

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Hi!

Are you apt to do the work on this car at all? You can buy a tester at that AutoZone you went to if you want to test it yourself but are you up to the repair anyway if a fuel pump is the problem? Even for a filter?

I suggest having a local shop or tech check the pressure for you. Chances are the quick lube places won't do this service but no harm in asking.

More: Do you have a "grace" period to legally drive this car to even see if the service light will come back on? It might not and you may be all set for inspection shortly. I'd still plan on routine service like a new fuel filter and all the other maint items.

Here in Massachusetts inpections are done AFTER you register the car and pay a fortune in fees - THEN you can go try for a "sticker" within 7 days grace from purchase. Ok- if your car doesn't communicate with the "People's Republic of Mass" registry of motor vehicles that all is well with emissions (mod yrs 1996 and newer) then you have 30 days for a free retest. No waiver for safety items - technically you aren't to drive the car at all till fixed!

Here's the tester AutoZone shows if you wanted to check your own......

Actron / 0-100 PSI Fuel Pressure Tester Kit with Ford Fuel Line Adapter About this product: Part Number: CP7818 Weight: 1.0 lbs. Pricing: $39.99 Availability: Store: Normally stocked at your local store.


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Let us know what your are apt to fix yourself or not,

T

Response From Blessedpilot

Hi and thanks again for the info. I dont mind getting dirty and doing the work myself. However, I dont have very much automotive knowledge but am very willing to learn. I am pretty cheap and rather than paying some oil change place $79.99 or something ridiculous like that just to check my fuel pressure, I would much rather get a little dirty and pay $40 for a pressure tester and do it myself. If the pressure is low, I have know problem getting dirty and replacing the fuel filter myself. Then again, I dont know how to use the tester or even how to locate the fuel filter, pump, etc...

Also, I ran the car by a garage that they state "specializes in emission repairs" and he told me with those codes he would need to hook it up to their machine and see what exactly is going on in there. This fee: $125 + tax! OUCH! That doesnt fix the problem or anything!!! They can charge that just to "hook it up" to their machine! Wow, I am in the wrong profession! Sorry, I am pretty cheap and would rather do the work myself and use their "machine" as a last resort. I dont mind getting dirty at all. I would rather get dirty and stock up on new tools in the garage doing the work myself than pay that for "hooking it up" to that machine!

I wish I had more knowledge in these things but I've never had anyone show me how.

I once had a '76 chevy pickup though and was able to do the oil changes myself. I was very proud of being able to do that. I even replaced the starter on it and performed a tune up! But that was many years ago and on a much less computerized, less sophisticated machine!

As far as a grace period goes in TX, I dont think I am supposed to drive it with an out of date sticker. (I have driven the vehicle about 50 miles since inspection and the light still has not come back on!) It stinks that inspection places still charge you even if your vehicle fails. So I had to pay the $40 even though I got no sticker out of the deal. However, the receipt stated that if repairs are made and the vehicle is returned for reinspection w/in 15 days, that they would reinspect the car at no additional charge. Therefore, I am anxious to get the vehicle up there and reinspected w/in this 15 day period.

So, hypothetically speaking, if I buy the pressure tester and test the fuel press myself, (and pressure is normal), then can I safely assume that all is ok and take it back up for reinspection? Then, lets say I test it myself and pressure is low. What would be my next step? Replace fuel filter and retest? Still low, replace fuel pump? What about this MAF thing that was mentioned earlier? I know nothing about that thing.

Sorry its such a long post but anymore advice is greatly appreciated,
Blessedpilot

Response From Loren Champlain Sr

Blessedpilot; You aren't Sully, are you? Anyway, if you've driven 50 miles without the CEL coming back on, your readiness monitors have surely completed by now. I'd have it retested before you spend any more money. If, for some reason they have not, they'll probably just tell you to drive some more. Wouldn't be a bad idea to replace that fuel filter, regardless, if it's been on there a long time. The MAF sensor is very easy to remove and clean. Be sure your fuel tank is between 1/2 and 3/4 full. Too little fuel or too much fuel, it will take a long time for the EVAP monitor to complete. Good luck.

Response From Blessedpilot Top Rated Answer

Lol. Nope, no seaplane flights for me!

Thansk again for all the great advice. I have driven now for over 50 miles and the light still has not come back on. I actually went to Autozone today intent on purchasing a new fuel filter and the guy behind the desk kind of discouraged me a little bit. I told him the whole ordeal and he pretty much told me that when they hook that emission test machine up again that the codes will still register. I was kind of assuming that since the system was cleared that any codes would remain undetectable unless the system "tripped" again with fresh codes. Do yall know how that emission machine works? Do they put something in the tail pipe to get readings or are they just checking fault codes or both? I think I will go back up there tomorrow though and get that fuel filter. I am sure its way overdue for replacement and its only about $8.

So in yalls best estimates, If I replace the fuel filter and the light remains off, should I take it back up for reinspection feeling pretty confident that it will pass this time?

As far as the MAF sensor, is it hard to locate? How about cleaning? How should I go about that?

Thanks again,
Blessedpilot

Response From Loren Champlain Sr

http://info.rockauto.com/getimage/getimage.php?imageurl=http%3A//info.rockauto.com/BeckArnley/1570255.jpgThe black, plastic looking thing-a-ma-bob is the MAF sensor. When you take it off, you'll see a diode looking thinga ma ging that may look a little fuzzy. Just clean it, gently, with carb cleaner or alchohol (don't use Maker's Mark) with a Q tip. Not sure about TX emissions, but WA will only plug into your OBD II connnector. Tail pipe emissions won't be checked. WA only checks for codes stored and CEL operation. This is '96 and newer, of course.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Same inspection here in MA. The car tells the machine it's ok for model years 96 and up w OBDII systems. They gave up testing by tailpipe unless there's something to see coming out. They change the rules by the hour so who knows for today? Too many cars flew off or damaged in testing alone by dyno.

If the CEL has remained OFF then it should be fine to retest by now! The car's puter will remember a slight glitch and if it can't self correct after a few tries it will light that light. It might say it "watching" something for a grace period in which case the scan will show "not ready" as it hasn't collected enough data. The state check by default will "reject" a vehicle IF the vehicle can't tell it that it's ok! It's legal to drive it for a time like that awaiting the fix. They use a black "R" (reject) sticker which means it's safe and under "grace" for a while - a RED "R" essentially means the car can't be used on public roads!

The inspection machine (I don't use those at all) are not there to tell you exactly what to fix - just that it isn't up to passing the test. It get's archived on the vehicle's VIN forever available thru CarFax what happened and when.

Go get the sticker NOW,

T

Response From Blessedpilot

Thanks so much for all the advice. I'm gonna replace that filter and try to clean that MAF a bit and give it another shot. I'll let yall know how it turns out.

Thanks again,
BlessedPilot

Response From Tom Greenleaf

If running well right now go get your free recheck now before doing anything more which might just cause another temporary code if engine struggles with empty new fuel filter (some may) or isn't pleased having that sensor even unplugged or cleaned right now if running well right now,

T

Response From Tom Greenleaf

blessedpilot/TEX :

Just know you can go broke buying tools for one time use and although this biz is costly to consumers you'd freak at the cost to just be able to do it! Mega thousands in tools equipment, - training, fees, permits, hazmat control and disposal, taxes - things that cost whether a customer comes by or not! Ya - there's decent $ if you work hard and treat folks well - you go home dirty, smell like an exhaust pipe, cuts, burns - keep going. Man - if you aren't a masochist it's not for you! Then you get the pissed off customers who think you are just out to get them! Arggh!

Ok: Go get your tester and go get your free retrial while the check/service engine light is off. Leave it off and ask to leave it alone if it somehow hasn't had enough time, , miles, or cycles of warm ups and cool downs. That may end the inspection thing or tell you that more is needed. Tester probably comes with detailed instructions for use - hope so.

Fuel filter suggested above: It may use "spring locked" things to release so you need a tool for that.

IMPORTANT! Anything to do with fuel and fuel under pressure in and around sparks and a hot engine has it's dangers of course. Use all common sense and ABSOLUTELY HAVE A FIRE EXTINGUISHER RATED FOR FUEL/GREASE at the ready! I further suggest finding outdoor, level cement surface place to work when dealing with possible fuel spills like these can.

Ask away when in doubt. Several of us are here routinely or get help directly when called for,

T

1982 Ford Granada 3.3L A few million miles?

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Question From irishmantx on 1982 Ford Granada 3.3L A few million miles?

Dear Group,

1982 Ford Granada 3.3L engine. Oily soot found coming out of the tail pipe, and
uses oil more often than used to. (long skid mark / sooty oil stain) from the
exhaust pipe. Original engine since 1982, possibly warning sign engine might
go? It's used heavily and takes me to work back and forth serving as the only
family 'back up' car. (odometer has rolled a few times since original 25,000 miles
back in 1984.)

Is this a sign of bad times for this engine? This particular engine was assembled
in Canada, smooth good solid running engine. If possible, I rather go with a good
long block.

Things done to this car.

Replaced battery, MT-56 Interstate. Replaced Alternator, Water pump (at same time)
radiator hoses, belts, rear brakes (L/R), front disk brake line hose (L/R), coil springs
(x4 w/air conditioner), rear shocks, front struts, thermostat replaced, carb replaced,
front weather strip (L/R) replaced, ignition module, voltage regulator, negative battery
cable electrically taped black since it was originally 'red' possibly mistake of positive cable.
Wheel bearings serviced, rack and pinion steering unit replaced, and head lamps replaced.

Oily sooty exhaust noticeable after idle and running the engine, leaving approx 1 to 2 foot
long 'skid mark' or 'skid stain' on ground / floor of garage. Uses oil more frequently as it
takes a quart every week or after heavy use. Possible warning sign of engine failure?

Shalom,

irishmantx
76531




Response From Tom Greenleaf

? Some confusion with just what this engine is. Is this the 200 CID straight six with one bbl carb? I just looked up a valve cover gasket with mixed info. 3.3 should = 200 CID inch and gasket like this.................

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With the miles it's hard to say as so many things are possible. Any blue smoke? If any smoke out tailpipe what color? Does this oily soot run out tailpipe leaving a streaked mix of part burned oil and gas - did I understand that properly?

Is is running well now despite the mess it makes? What's taxing my mind is IF it runs on all six cyl. and doesn't smoke than a fair amount of raw fuel or oil is getting in the exhaust. Using some oil at VERY high miles isn't totally amazing nor means there isn't more left to go.

Lots to think about with this. Some engines will put out a trail a water from condensation in the cold exhaust but mostly when colder, humid air and would be dirty but would quit it when warmed up.

Could be sludge if any now not be allowing oil return to pan and valve guides are sucking down oil way too fast but if running well that would smoke and make a scene. You can get a good idea sometimes about sludge just looking in oil fill cap or take valve cover off for a real good look.

IMO if engine has to go the head need be in same condition or reworked. I didn't find reman whole engine available but they should be but not common parts houses. Used at the age would be rare to find a known good whole engine but if diagnosis shows this one is that worn I'd ask a reputable salvage yard for exact fit replacement.

It probably is worth paying for a professional diagnosis, compression and other observations to declare engine's needs.

Sorry for the long response - this has so many possibilities by age and miles it's an open book without some serious diagnostics,

Tom

Response From irishmantx

Dear Tom,

That looks about right!! Some blue smoke does puff out... To be honest, it runs 'OK' BUT....
Since the engine is original, and it takes more oil than normal, leaving a 1 to 2 foot stain of
streaking oil / exhaust soot, I surmise this engine is tired.

I rather get total complete long block with a warranty. I could get her over to a shop for
a full compression and engine diagnostic. At least see where I stand on the shape of this
engine. Or g-d forbid, engine goes, then get her towed. I told my dad (who owns the car)
about this.

One bit of good news, I got the new computer box w/chip back into my 1988 GMC S15
and it 'appears' to run smoothly. Got to test a few more times at certain times the truck
acts up and breaks down. :P So far so good. I hope, fingers crossed.. toes crossed, knocking
on all kinds of wood. lol

Well, I thought it could be something serious about the oily sooty exhaust. I never see this
car act that way. It runs a bit louder, takes more oil than normal, and now I remember I see
piddle leaks toward the front and back of the engine. Like 3 to 6 piddles of oil toward the front,
and 2 to 4 piddles of oil toward the back of the engine. Not sure if it's valve cover or gasket
warped and going bad. When I start the engine, it makes a rattle rattle noise... then goes away.
Belts squeal and hard to keep speed when I get past Warp 7 (70 mph) it shakes, may need front
end alignment, and new tires. :) I keep her between Warp 1 (10 mph) to Warp 6.5 (65 mph).

At any rate, this car is my family heirloom and I help spend money on the C-4 Transmission. I
don't mind saving up for the engine. I already spent money on the rest of the previous posted
items.

It's a 3.3 liter, 200ci engine, Straight 6 engine. Will fuel injection be better than carb?

Shalom,

irishmantx
76531




Response From Tom Greenleaf

OK: This engine has probably had it and what you are experiencing is plain wear from VERY high miles with blowby past pistons and their rings and that will put pressure into crankcase instead of the minute vacuum it should be via the PCV valve. Bet it you just pull the dipstick while idling it blow out when it really should be slightly sucking in air there. Valve guids in head and their seals sucking in oil beyond what it can burn so some actually makes it out the exhaust!

BTW - none of this is good for the cat. converter which is probably dead and kinda surprised it isn't all clogged up.

The shaking is probably tire, wheel, wheel bearing adjustment. Alignment alone really shouldn't be the cause of imbalance or causing shaking if off but would make the cause worse if badly out of spec. With the miles you have to check everything - front end parts even if already done could need them again at a "few million" miles

Carb vs fuel injection. Late carbs were hard to meet emmsions and got more complicated and fussier than much older than this year of vehicle. You really can't switch it to injected as that would be an engineering project and legalities of the car could or would be an issue. Totally impractical and too involved to even think about that.

If you are going to invest in the reman engine start checking for what's available. Ford themselves might still have a reman available. It would be a total stroke of magic to find a good low mile original that matched exactly at the age. Don't expect a reman engine to compete with original new for pounding miles on them. They can only be truly new once,

T

Response From irishmantx

Dear Tom,


Thanks for the info! I had gone out to my 'donor' Granada for
some hard to find parts. My "donor" Granada is a 4.2L which is
a 255ci v8. (It's being used as a donor car since its too costly to
fix immediately.)

Anyways, I did find an air filter intake hose from the wall to the
filter. The old one on my mom's 1982 Granada fell and crumbled
apart. It fit good, and I agree with you about the 3.3L 200 engine.

OK: This engine has probably had it and what you are experiencing is plain wear from VERY high miles with blowby past pistons and their rings and that will put pressure into crankcase instead of the minute vacuum it should be via the PCV valve. Bet it you just pull the dipstick while idling it blow out when it really should be slightly sucking in air there. Valve guids in head and their seals sucking in oil beyond what it can burn so some actually makes it out the exhaust!

I agree with you, mom, dad and I put WAY to many miles on this engine. The
engine was built in Canada and I give credit that maple syrup makes every
thing better. :) (: HA HA! ;) ;) ;) It spits oily soot at least 2ft from tail pipe,
and I must admit, this engine is tired. The car is still good, with Tender Loving
Care, I hope it remains for the next generation. Thanx Tom for your advice.
Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, Happy Holidays. Hope you and yours have
a wonderful holiday season, and if you drink too much egg nog, have a backup
driver ready to take you home, or sleep it off in the back seat. ;)

Money is being saved up over time, and save up for a new
engine. I want an engine that has a warranty and there are
rebuilds, but I want a 3.3L 200ci, Straight 6 long block. Is it a
good idea to get new water pump, alternator, carb, fuel pump,
and other parts, or salvage them off of the old engine, and how
much for a catalytic converter?

If all else fails, what engine places do you recommend for a
long block replacement? I don't want the hassle and issues with
rebuild the heads and the block itself. I realize its too much to
put into fuel injection, however, if I am super wealthy, or I meet
a nice sweet, wealthy, rich, financially deep pocketed Jewish
sugar cougar, I might want to hire the guy's at Overhaulin and
do some 'upgrades' and the legal team to make it happen. HA!
Other than that, it's by the book and back to factory standard.

Shalom

irishmantx
76531


Response From Tom Greenleaf

The FORD cast iron straight six engines share quite a bit I recall. My own first was 144 CID in a 63 Falcon, a 200 CID in a 68 Falcon and by chance other Fords were all V8s. Some of these are identical with changes in stroke to change displacement. Many used the 250 CID then trucks went big on the 300 CID called a 4.9L.


What to replace with a reman engine:

If alternator is fine now re-use it. Water pump should be cheaper and probably would put a new not reman pump on. All new cooling system hoses and vacuum lines. Carb? I'd swap first and if needed just get a kit to rebuild it. Should be fairly straight forward if you have good instructions with the kit usually. rebuilt/reman for carbs is mostly a real good cleaning, new needle valve, accelerator pump and gaskets. The idle mix screw my have a hardened cap to prevent messing with the idle mixture. Procedures to remove that with a punch may come with a kit as there is a needle valve behind those - perhaps a "clutch" headed needle valve and you can buy just one socket for those head looks like white spot in this pic......

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Idea is not to tamper with them as too many folks fussed with them and messed them up. For a good cleaning you need to take that out though. With those or any count turn in to a gentle bottom so you can duplicate where it was. If all is lost bottom it (gently is the operative word) and back off about 2+1/2 turns to 3 should be about right. For DIY carb things there are a few special tools. Kit is cheap and should come with specs and a thing to measure float level. If real fussy you find spec of float(s) and weigh them as they can sink from soaking up gas or be heavier and the level of fuel in the bowl is critical for proper fuel mixture. By mid throttle or wide open the idle mix isn't being used at all and too many people think it is the whole adjustment - NOT.

Rebuilt units can be good but I've had tons that needed way too many adjustments that were off. For the vintage you would normally set the idle speed on any and if all is good that's about all. Late carbs were a pill and full of tamper proof crap which can be defeated for cleaning up small holes/ports for fuel flow. I did do a ton of carb work back when.

Catalytic converter: Generally I would suggest an OE one but with this vintage aftermarket should be fine and tons cheaper. Dunno - if welded into the front pipe you may need more tools to cut old one out with care so replacement can just be clamps like a muffler.

Can't say for everywhere but I can't think of a state in US legal to just use straight pipe if a vehicle came with a converter. A good one doesn't harm performance for this and most applications.

Not sure what reman engine will have with it. Ask so you know and if you are doing this at all replace old stuff like plug wires or tune-up things that don't come with it.

Truth is in decades of car stuff I've never used a reman engine - always fully checked out low mile complete used that was a perfect match - no games. All were 100% good with a history. This is just too old to get that lucky.

It was my training and my opinion which may not be everyone's but no reman engine will have the propensity to last as long as a good original. For those making Hot Rods and that - do what you want. For a practical driver leave as much original as possible with most things.

Save up. There's still lots to do with a replacement engine,

Tom

Response From irishmantx

Dear Tom,

OK, I'm still not sure where to go, I guess I'm asking amiss, I wanted some
recommendation on which place to find O.E.M. or 'original' style engines? I
am on a tighter than a lycra leather corset budget, and I wanted a place to
get a replacement engine. I really don't know the history of 'used' engines,
and often some want to sell bull and sell me a wore out engine 'worse' than
mine. :(

But if you don't know of any places to direct me to procure an engine that
is CAST IRON, most original, and or avoid places that sell undesirable engines.
That's OK. I'll ask the mechanic about to perform the 'surgery' to take care of
it. I believe the carb was replaced last year. It runs good, water pump and
alternator was replaced together last year. Kept full of 50/50.

Also what steering columns will fit this Granada? It's a fox foundation style
and I was 'informed' that most Mustang parts for 1982 would fit some parts
on the Granada. The rear end, drive shaft, and the dash top?

Just wanted to make sure I knew where I was going on replacing an engine.
It's a vital investment, and wanted to make sure I sounded like I know I was
asking for, instead of being baffled by bull. :P

Shalom,

irishmantx
76531


Response From Tom Greenleaf Top Rated Answer

Engines: Holy cow - the exacting machine work to make one new is tough. A redo requires more specs to be checked and corrected that if all on paper you couldn't lift the book.

New and engine is cast. then line bored for as close to perfect for long shafts like crank and cam in this. New the engines each have their own DNA. You can't just swap crank bearing caps as once machined that's the fit for that one only. Even the machine tools for new only make so many "bores" before they are out of spec new! Redoing all that with a core engine is an art to itself and some come out well and some don't. They make parts that needed to be re bored to fit a new size but still it's a trade unto itself.

Cylinder walls don't wear evenly. When a cylinder fires the pressure of piston to cylinder wall is on one side so over time it loses it's perfect measurement for the travel of the piston. This is intense to get it all right at once.

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Parts that interchange: Salvage places have a ton of data for what was the same for what models and years. I don't think any of us have the software for all of that but a good clue on some. Mercury made the Monarch which was the same body and most mechanical parts - just trim and sheet metal style, shape to look a bit different. I just dunno what other Ford products used the same exact body and think this one was on it's own. I actually don't know this car that well. There were Fairmonts, Zephyrs that might share many parts to Granada. TMK and FORD used names randomly for a while around then it could be also the same platform as once a smaller LTD and Marquis - none with V8s TMK and were unit body cars not chassis. Even Lincoln made a Versailles (sp?) that was really a dressed up Granada. Any decent salvage yard should know what can interchange,

T

Response From irishmantx

Dear Tom,


With all of that said, worst case scenario, if and when there is a 'Warp Core Breach'
and a new warp engine is needed, chances are, it might be towed to a mechanic that
my folx trust, and would likely tell the mechanic to go find a new total long block that
will fit the car. My dad owns a 1994 Buick Century, and had to replace the engine since
a shade tree idiot did not change the oil and burned up the motor. The 'idiot' left town,
and stuck my folx a $3,500 front wheel drive engine. OR so the price for a front wheel
drive engine for a 1994 Buick Century. (NOT A NEW THREAD!)

Push comes to shove, its not 'my' car to make any decisions. It's the "mom and dad
back up utility car since dad don't want to drive his car as often as he wants" kind of
car. LOL. Tom thank you for the help, looks like I beg my mom and dad not to scrap
this cream puff, but get a new motor, after my obligated expected offer to help pay for
half of it. Full LONG BLOCK 3.3 Liter, 200ci, 6cylinder engine.

Since I drive it a lot, and did 'front' most of the repairs and parts, I hope to have some
say in keeping this car. It's a solid machine and scares a lot of the plastic car toy drivers,
when they see a "REAL" car on the road. :)

Shalom,
irishmantx
76531