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2005 Nissan Xterra clutch noise

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Question From ericwalker on 2005 Nissan Xterra clutch noise

2005 Nissan Xterra 6cly, manual. Starts fine, Runs fine. Issue is an additional continuous noise from serp belt when I release the clutch pedal at start up while idling.

Response From Discretesignals

How can you have a clutch noise from a belt?


Does the noise stop when you disengage the clutch?
What is the condition of the belt and belt tensioner?
If you remove the belt, does the noise go away?

Response From ericwalker

Yes, I am not a mechanic, just know enough (or think I do) to be dangerous..

Not sure why there is an additional noise. When I engage the clutch all sounds fine, when I let clutch pedal out there is an additional and continuous noise. The belt and tensioner might be original to vehicle. I have not replaced it nor have my mechanic. This is the 2nd clutch in the vehicle. This one has approx. 30k miles on it. I have not removed belt..

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Been ages - this was caused by a "pilot" bushing by your description which should be lubed, checked or replaced any time trans is out like for a clutch. I can go looking for it or what is used but input shaft of trans needs to be held in place, engine keeps turning to shaft is rubbing there then but no real load.


Just a question as you said you've replaced clutch twice already! Why? IDK, I find unless a linkage issue or lousy driving conditions like lots of stop and go and too many hill starts in your routine it's driver causing them to burn out if just worn out,


T
(edit and found this)
http://contentinfo.autozone.com/znetcs/product-info/en/US/pht/NU31704/image/3/
The little bushing shown between disc and pressure plate low is the bushing or the thing shown below pressure plate - hard to see exactly. New one comes with a whole set and see this one with an alignment tool as well. Transmissions left hanging with weight on input shaft are subject to problems as that shaft is NOT meant to sustain forces that way. If so that's mechanic error and usually would show up right away........

Response From ericwalker

Thanks again.

The xterra I found, is prone to clutch replacement every 80k miles. This one has about 25k on it already. I will have to check with the transmission place to see what the warranty is. Additionally, I do tow with it periodically, and do a lot of around town travel..

I assume this is a part that can only be accessed when the whole assembly is pulled out? Also, what will eventually happen if this goes un-attended?

Response From Tom Greenleaf

This noise isn't necessarily wear at all just smacks of that "bushing" I'll call it. That just centers the trans input shaft to the crank shaft. When engine and trans are spinning at the same speed it isn't moving. When still and engine running it is.


Jeez - about 800 years ago when I schooled in just these things the game was just put a finger full of grease on/in those and you can forget it forever usually. Problem is to get right there it's all apart - so now what? Do you just do the whole job because you are there already or what?


HOW LONG DOES A CLUTCH LAST: That is still how it's driven except for maybe rust, oil contamination it doesn't wear much if used properly. Hey - sometimes you just can't like hill starts in a line of traffic and of course car behind you leaves about enough room to hold a piece of paper to not roll back. Trailering alone shouldn't do much either just worse under those same type conditions. I've known clutches to last 1/4 mil miles till cars croaked in general.


If you are always needing them you and folks should really consider automatics. They are much easier on a car IMO and no real loss of MPG but do cost up front new still.


For warranty of a clutch it's either defective in some way or used up - two days or twenty years same deal.


Job at hand just (highly likely) just missed this one step or maybe cleaned it? Some used to be a bronze beaded thing that would sweat out some lube but doubt that now,


T

Response From Discretesignals

When I engage the clutch all sounds fine, when I let clutch pedal out there is an additional and continuous noise.

What is strange is that the noise goes away when he disengages the clutch (talking about clutch disc, not pedal). If a pilot bearing was bad, you would think it would be noisy when the clutch was disengaged. With the clutch engaged the input shaft and crank flange are spinning at the same speed.

I'm still curious as to why you stated the noise was coming from the serpentine belt. Maybe you should have it checked out by your mechanic.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

NO - Not by your description as trans is sitting still when you are at idle and stopped or did I miss something? I can't compete with someone checking things with the vehicle right in front of them either no matter what the noise - tricky by nature to describe exactly,


T


*(edit in) Understand that crankshaft of a running engine is turning at engine speed. Shaft of transmission is centered on it so while not moving (clutch up/engaged) in neutral that shaft has to sit still in a hole called the pilot bushing - not known to me as a roller type bearing in anything I know of. That's the textbook sound of that and rare to ever happen no matter what except bad luck? Most techs probably don't touch the thing even doing a clutch as they just don't cause problems much ever as said and frequently two different metals that just don't make a sound but is about the only spot this could do that.


If you confuse this with a belt noise somehow it will take the right tech as you did to listen to it and so far something is missed, either the exact conditions it can happen or the tech never heard one before. In now decades on end have heard ONE!)

Response From ericwalker
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Thanks for input. I took it to Transmission Mechanic that did the work last time. He said it could be a front bearing in the trans. He will check it out physically next week. Will update then..

Response From ericwalker

Sorry for delay, here is update.

Had clutch replace, since it went on me. Mechanic realized additional problem in transmission. Price to repair was more than what car is worth. Will run car until it goes.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Thanks for your report and decision. Wish you had said what was found that was so expensive for just a noise and could have been other end of that input shaft to trans which might be AFUed somehow and costly.


DS posted while I was at same time. Whatever was found wrong could be a nightmare as he said just we don't know what you were told?




T

Response From Discretesignals

Be careful driving it like that. If the transmission were to fail in a way in which it causes the rear wheels to lock up, you could be in for a wild ride.

2005 Nissan Xterra with codes

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Question From ericwalker on 2005 Nissan Xterra with codes

I just had my clutch replaced in my 2005 Nissan xterra. I am getting codes of P1273 and P0430. I have cleared them but have returned. Is this due to clutch replacement?

Response From Discretesignals

You should have them clear the ECM self learning for the P1273 and see if it comes back. It is going to require a factory scan tool or a scan tool with that function to reset the learn function. If it does come back after reset, the reason for the lean correction has to be diagnosed.

You could have a bad catalyst on bank 2, but that would have to be verified.

Unable to tell you if the clutch job caused this until it is diagnosed and the cause determined.

Response From ericwalker

Thanks, confirmed with mechanic, and got fixed!

Response From Discretesignals
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What was the solution?

Response From ericwalker

Had to replace sensors relating to exhaust...cat converter is ok. Thx..

Response From Discretesignals

Thanks for the feed back. Closed as solved.

2000 nissan xterra wont run. loses power,finally dies

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Question From wendy36123 on 2000 nissan xterra wont run. loses power,finally dies

2000 nissan xterra runs for only a few minutes then engine loses power,finally dies

Response From Tom Greenleaf
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Trying to read thru the line there. Does it stay not running for a while or start up and repeat this? Does it finally get over this when warmed up and run ok or a constant issue?

T

Location of cooling system bleeder valve 2001 Nissan Xterra V6

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Question From Prariebyu on Location of cooling system bleeder valve 2001 Nissan Xterra V6

Does anyone know the location of the cooling system bleeder valve on a 2001 Nissan Xterra v6? Thanks!

Response From speed
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Yes, bleeders are actually pretty rare.


96 camaro ftw!

Response From Hammer Time

That engine doesn't have a bleeder. The factory recommends using a vacuum bleeder for filling.


Here is a TSB they published





Classification: TE02-001a
Reference: NTB02-011a
Date: March 11, 2002
ESSENTIAL TOOL: ENGINE COOLANT REFILL TOOL
This bulletin amends NTB02-011. This version has the addition of a Service Procedure. Please discard all paper copies of the earlier bulletin. APPLIED VEHICLES:
All Nissan
SERVICE INFORMATION
If for any reason the vehicle's cooling system needs to be filled with coolant due to a service repair or maintanance, use the Coolant Refill Tool # J-45695. ^ Using this tool properly will ensure complete filling without trapped air bubbles in the cooling system. ^ Air pockets in the cooling system can cause: A) Overheating B) Poor heater performance C) Gurgling noise from the heater core
To ensure the tool is used correctly, refer to the Operating Instructions supplied with the tool and the Service Procedure in this Bulletin.

Refer to the "Essential Tool Shipment" flyer shown for additional information.
This special tool is "Essential" and was automatically sent to all Nissan dealers.
Additional tools can be ordered from Tech-Mate (1-800-662-2001) for $196.43 each.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
Refer to the Operating Instructions supplied with the tool for complete refill procedure.
Key points to ensure the cooling system is purged of air bubbles are as follows;
Always start with an Empty Radiator
For step 2 of the Operating Instructions: ^ To hold the coolant mixture supply, use a clean bucket or other suitable container that is larger than the cooling system's total capacity. ^ The amount of coolant mixture in the refill supply must be more than needed to fill the system completely. ^ This will help avoid pulling in air at the end of the refilling procedure. NOTE: ^ See the appropriate Service Manual for cooling system refill capacity. ^ Use Genuine NISSAN Anti-freeze Coolant or equivalent, mixed 50/50 with distilled water or demineralized water.
For step 3 of the Operating Instructions: ^ Make sure to Purge all air from the Refill Tube (intake hose) before beginning the refill process.
NOTE: The Venturi will NOT be harmed if some coolant goes through it during the air purge process. ^ Place the container of coolant mixture above the level of the radiator during the refill process.

Response From Prariebyu

Thanks. Gotta love Nissan for that.

Response From Hammer Time

Yes, bleeders are actually pretty rare.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

It isn't just them. Tons of vehicles are a total PITA to properly fill cooling system. There are some tricks but unless you really know what you are doing you could be risking a serious overheat and untold troubles,

T

2005 Nissan xterra timing chain

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Question From ericwalker on 2005 Nissan xterra timing chain

I have a Nissan Xterra 2005 with 150k miles. The dealership mechanic suggests to replace the timing chain and water pump. This was recommended as I just had a new clutch and flywheel installed. What are the symptoms that indicate that this work is needed, or is this "recommended" service necessary?

Response From Hammer Time

Do they have any justification for recommending this. As a rule, timing chains are not replaced on a preventative basis, only when there is a failure but that doesn't mean they couldn't have a good reason in this situation.

Response From ericwalker

thanks, turns out timing chain is ok..

Response From Hammer Time
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Thanks for following up.

Question closed now as solved

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