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Delphi
1998 Oldsmobile Bravada Ignition Control Module Delphi

P311-374626D    DS10039  New

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Delphi Ignition Control Module
  • Ignition Control Module
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  • 100 years of OE experience, supplier to the world's top automakers, OE Heritage and knowledge built into every aftermarket part.
Brand: Delphi
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1998 - Oldsmobile Bravada
Delphi
2000 Oldsmobile Alero Ignition Control Module 6 Cyl 3.4L Delphi

P311-47E0226    GN10125  New

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Delphi Ignition Control Module
  • Ignition Control Module
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    • Connector Quantity: 3
    • Terminal Gender: Male
    • Terminal Quantity: 17
  • 100 years of OE experience, supplier to the world's top automakers, OE Heritage and knowledge built into every aftermarket part.
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2000 - Oldsmobile Alero V 6 Cyl 3.4L 207 -
Delphi
1996 Oldsmobile 98 Ignition Control Module 6 Cyl 3.8L Delphi

P311-08F0869    DS1004  New

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170.67
Delphi Ignition Control Module
  • Ignition Control Module
  • Product Attributes:
    • Terminal Gender: Male Female
    • Terminal Quantity: 20
  • 100 years of OE experience, supplier to the world's top automakers, OE Heritage and knowledge built into every aftermarket part.
Brand: Delphi
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Vehicle Block Engine CID CC
1996 - Oldsmobile 98 V 6 Cyl 3.8L 231 3800
Delphi
1986 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera Ignition Control Module 6 Cyl 2.8L Delphi

P311-25E9FD6    DS10059  New

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Delphi Ignition Control Module
  • Ignition Control Module
  • Product Attributes:
    • Terminal Gender: Male
    • Terminal Quantity: 8
  • 100 years of OE experience, supplier to the world's top automakers, OE Heritage and knowledge built into every aftermarket part.
Brand: Delphi
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1986 - Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera W V 6 Cyl 2.8L 173 -
Delphi
2003 Oldsmobile Alero Ignition Control Module 4 Cyl 2.2L Delphi

P311-2279B1C    GN10112  New

LX981T , 6H1378 , LX981 , DR105 , 19300922 , 12580215 , 7148 , CBE762 , TP462 , D1968D , LX-981

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Delphi Ignition Control Module
  • Ignition Control Module
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    • Connector Quantity: 1
    • Terminal Gender: Male
    • Terminal Quantity: 13
  • 100 years of OE experience, supplier to the world's top automakers, OE Heritage and knowledge built into every aftermarket part.
Brand: Delphi
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2003 - Oldsmobile Alero L 4 Cyl 2.2L 134 2198
Standard Ignition
1985 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Ignition Control Module Standard Ignition

P311-3A441D7    LX-301  New

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Qty:
30.82
Standard Ignition Ignition Control Module
  • Ignition Control Module
  • ; Export with Canada Emissions
  • Product Attributes:
    • Connector Gender: Male
    • Mounting Location: Distributor
    • Terminal Gender: Male
    • Terminal Quantity: 4
    • Terminal Type: Blade Terminals
  • Our control modules feature double wire bonds for better connections, greater dependability and longer life despite being subjected to intense vibration and the tough operating environment. Copper slug heat sinks provide better heat dissipation to prevent heat from damaging the module. Our ignition modules will respond to a weak signal from the crankshaft position sensor and begin energizing the coils immediately for better starts in cold weather. High-temperature polymer housing reducing moisture intrusion and minimizes vibration damage for extended life and improved reliability. Our ignition modules are durability tested for 500 thermal cycles ranging from -40C to +125C. With industry leading expertise in electronic ignition, when original equipment fails our products are designed to fix the inherent failure issues. As a global manufacturer of original equipment ignition products, we maintain complete quality control throughout the manufacturing process from componentry to finished product.
Brand: Standard Ignition
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1985 - Oldsmobile Delta 88 Sedan
Standard Ignition
1982 Oldsmobile 98 Ignition Control Module 8 Cyl 5.0L Standard Ignition

P311-3A441D7    LX-301  New

CBE4 , 1875990 , J8131941 , 2-7000 , D1906 , 5A4 , 1190357 , DS10071 , 4384021 , 5927.89 , 4419628 , 8131941 , DR100 , 55-1513 , T1021955 , 5927-89 , E200 , 592789 , M-143 , 7092 , 19180771 , 3-3000 , 180-0002 , 1894322 , D3000 , DS10049 , 10482820 , 4384034 , 7701021955 , 6H1013

Qty:
30.82
Standard Ignition Ignition Control Module
  • Ignition Control Module
  • ; with Canada Emissions
  • Product Attributes:
    • Connector Gender: Male
    • Mounting Location: Distributor
    • Terminal Gender: Male
    • Terminal Quantity: 4
    • Terminal Type: Blade Terminals
  • Our control modules feature double wire bonds for better connections, greater dependability and longer life despite being subjected to intense vibration and the tough operating environment. Copper slug heat sinks provide better heat dissipation to prevent heat from damaging the module. Our ignition modules will respond to a weak signal from the crankshaft position sensor and begin energizing the coils immediately for better starts in cold weather. High-temperature polymer housing reducing moisture intrusion and minimizes vibration damage for extended life and improved reliability. Our ignition modules are durability tested for 500 thermal cycles ranging from -40C to +125C. With industry leading expertise in electronic ignition, when original equipment fails our products are designed to fix the inherent failure issues. As a global manufacturer of original equipment ignition products, we maintain complete quality control throughout the manufacturing process from componentry to finished product.
Brand: Standard Ignition
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1982 - Oldsmobile 98 V 8 Cyl 5.0L 307 -
Standard Ignition
1986 Oldsmobile Firenza Ignition Control Module 4 Cyl 2.0L Standard Ignition

P311-280373A    LX-340  New

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53.43
Standard Ignition Ignition Control Module
  • Ignition Control Module
  • Product Attributes:
    • Connector Gender: Female
    • Connector Quantity: 2
    • Mounting Location: Distributorless
    • Terminal Gender: Male
    • Terminal Quantity: 6
    • Terminal Type: Blade Terminals
  • Microprocessor based circuitry with custom generated firmware. Reverse battery protection for accidental miss wiring. Electro Static Discharge (ESD) protection. Nickel plated steel lead frame to minimize connector oxidation and maximize electrical contacts. Double wire bond interconnect system, lead frame to substrate for improved reliability.
Brand: Standard Ignition
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Vehicle Block Engine CID CC
1986 - Oldsmobile Firenza L 4 Cyl 2.0L 122 -
Standard Ignition
1997 Oldsmobile Bravada Ignition Control Module Standard Ignition

P311-3632AF9    LX-381  New

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Qty:
95.57
Standard Ignition Ignition Control Module
  • Ignition Control Module
  • Product Attributes:
    • Connector Gender: Female
    • Connector Quantity: 1
    • Mounting Location: Inside Distributor
    • Terminal Gender: Male
    • Terminal Quantity: 4
    • Terminal Type: 4 Blade Terminals
  • OEM Application Specific Integrated Circuit. High battery over voltage shutdown protection. Electro Static Discharge (ESD) protection. Nickel plated steel lead frame to minimize connector oxidation and maximize electrical contacts. Double wire bond interconnect system, lead frame to substrate for improved reliability.
Brand: Standard Ignition
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Vehicle
1997 - Oldsmobile Bravada
Delphi
1991 Oldsmobile 98 Ignition Control Module Delphi

P311-01CADCC    W0133-1871983  New

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269.72
Delphi Ignition Control Module
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • ; Type IFor Magnavox Coil 25535952
Brand: Delphi
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Vehicle
1991 - Oldsmobile 98
Delphi
1992 Oldsmobile 98 Ignition Control Module Delphi

P311-01CADCC    W0133-1871983  New

Qty:
269.72
Delphi Ignition Control Module
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • ; Type IFor Magnavox Coil 25535952Vendor:ACDELCOVendor #D1922A
Brand: Delphi
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Vehicle Aspiration
1992 - Oldsmobile 98 Naturally Aspirated
Delphi
1999 Oldsmobile Bravada Ignition Control Module Delphi

P311-0A0C95B    W0133-1865008  New

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169.87
Delphi Ignition Control Module
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
Brand: Delphi
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Vehicle
1999 - Oldsmobile Bravada
ACDelco
1999 Oldsmobile Intrigue Ignition Control Module 6 Cyl 3.8L ACDelco

P311-5BF9C4C    W0133-1956095  New

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443.24
ACDelco Ignition Control Module
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • Genuine GM
Brand: ACDelco
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1999 - Oldsmobile Intrigue V 6 Cyl 3.8L 231 3800
ACDelco
1992 Oldsmobile 88 Ignition Control Module ACDelco

P311-5BF9C4C    W0133-1956095  New

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ACDelco Ignition Control Module
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • Genuine GM
  • ; Type IIVendor:ACDELCOVendor #D1977AStamped #1103911
Brand: ACDelco
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Vehicle
1992 - Oldsmobile 88
ACDelco
1993 Oldsmobile 98 Ignition Control Module ACDelco

P311-5BF9C4C    W0133-1956095  New

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443.24
ACDelco Ignition Control Module
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • Genuine GM
  • ; Stamped #1103911
Brand: ACDelco
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Vehicle
1993 - Oldsmobile 98
ACDelco
1992 Oldsmobile 98 Ignition Control Module ACDelco

P311-5BF9C4C    W0133-1956095  New

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443.24
ACDelco Ignition Control Module
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • Genuine GM
  • ; Vendor:ACDELCOVendor #D1977AStamped #1103911
Brand: ACDelco
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Vehicle Aspiration
1992 - Oldsmobile 98 Naturally Aspirated
Delphi
2003 Oldsmobile Alero Ignition Control Module 4 Cyl 2.2L Delphi

P311-56F0660    W0133-2105934  New

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134.56
Delphi Ignition Control Module
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
Brand: Delphi
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Vehicle Block Engine CID CC
2003 - Oldsmobile Alero L 4 Cyl 2.2L 134 2198
Delphi
2004 Oldsmobile Alero Ignition Control Module 4 Cyl 2.2L Delphi

P311-56F0660    W0133-2105934  New

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134.56
Delphi Ignition Control Module
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
Brand: Delphi
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2004 - Oldsmobile Alero GL L 4 Cyl 2.2L 134 2198
ACDelco
2004 Oldsmobile Alero Ignition Control Module 4 Cyl 2.2L ACDelco

P311-024EAD6    W0133-2105934  New

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168.48
ACDelco Ignition Control Module
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • Genuine GM
Brand: ACDelco
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Vehicle Submodel Block Engine CID CC
2004 - Oldsmobile Alero GL L 4 Cyl 2.2L 134 2198
Delphi
1992 Oldsmobile 88 Ignition Control Module 6 Cyl 3.8L Delphi

P311-08F0869    DS1004  New

CBE47 , D1977A , DR420G , 10494012 , 10475225 , DR158 , 12617924 , LX-364 , 6H1045 , LX364 , LX364T , DM1977 , 19245558 , E259 , LX-364T , TP414 , TP414SB , CBE47P , 19056678

Qty:
170.67
Delphi Ignition Control Module
  • Ignition Control Module
  • Type II - Delco/Remy
  • Product Attributes:
    • Terminal Gender: Male Female
    • Terminal Quantity: 20
  • 100 years of OE experience, supplier to the world's top automakers, OE Heritage and knowledge built into every aftermarket part.
Brand: Delphi
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Vehicle Block Engine CID CC
1992 - Oldsmobile 88 V 6 Cyl 3.8L 231 3800

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engine code 43

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Question From tsc0495 on engine code 43

1992 oldsmobile cutlass 3.1 engine..this car shows engine code 43. can any one point in the rigth way on this. change the knock sensor still got the code.

Response From Sidom

Check the wiring harness that comes from the sensor around the front of the engine. I had one where the harness got moved and the serp belt cut thru the knock sensor wire.....

Response From Loren Champlain Sr

tsc; The 'Knock sensor' is designed to 'listen for pre-ignition' ping. Or, spark knock, if you will. Unfortunately, it can't distinguish if the 'knock' is from pre-ignition, rocker arms, rod or main bearings. Do you have ANY engine noises that it could be 'hearing'?

Response From Hammer Time

A code 43 means there is a problem with the ability to adjust timing so the system is not operational.

Response From Hammer Time Top Rated Answer

The components for this circuit are the knock sensor, Ignition control module, the PCM and all the related wiring. Any of them can be causing your problem.

no fire to my spark plugs

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Question From randyeppers1980 on no fire to my spark plugs

my vehicle is a 1983 oldsmobile delta 88. it has 136,000 miles on the odometer. engine is a 307 c.i.d. V8 with factory 4 barrel carb. i have no spark to my spark plugs. the following items are new...spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap, rotor button, coil on top of the cap, ignition control module, and the pick up coil inside the distributor. i have a maintenance free distributor in that it just turns the fly wheel. unless the teeth are damaged(which theyre not) it should work if everything else works. all components are new. no crank shaft sensor on my vehicle( i've been told) what else is there? also when i removed the distributor, i marked the fly wheel and distributor so i didnt reinstall it 180' retarded or advanced. so tell me please what im missing!!!

Response From Vinnysnismo Top Rated Answer

Even if you put the distributor in 180 out it would still have spark, just not in the correct order(probably wouldn't run and if it did it would run very bad). Are you getting power into the plug that goes into your distributor? Start there. If no power your problem lies before the distributor. Also VERY IMPORTANT-- if it is a HEI ignition(coil on top of cap) you have to make sure they you install the SECONDARY NEGATIVE on the coil(it is actually for the pick-up coil)if this wire is not installed it will cause the coil wires to melt through causing "voltage punch through" destroying the coil cap n rotor. If this wire is not installed the motor will still run.... but make sure it has it. When i bought my truck (GMC w/ 350 HEI) the person that had it before me did not install the wire. My truck ran fine for a long time and one day the wires that go to the coil melted together causing all 8 cyl to ignite at the same time almost blowing the motor.(it backfired so loud a cop heard it 3 miles away) Check for power going to your dist when you turn your key on.. also make sure your rotor turns when the motor is cranked over..if not...you have serious problems.

Response From kathill73

did you find out what was wrong as im having same problem

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Is the rotor inside cap turning when the engine is cranking?

T

1994 Olds 88, no spark

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Question From turysal on 1994 Olds 88, no spark

1994 Oldsmobile 88, 3.8, 150k mileage.
Recently did oil change, tune up, new spark wires and plugs, took it for a test drive and check engine light came on, (loss of horsepower then died). Start up right away. Week later did same thing, took it to my friend did a diag. check. Throttle position sensor was bad. Replaced it. Car felt better. week or so later, then check engine light came on, loss of horsepower, after driving 10 min or so, went like that for a couple of days while driving then completely died three days ago with the same symptoms I described above all within the span of 10 sec from my house to the corner street. Replaced with new battery because it was old and drained it trying start up again. Noticed I did not hear fuel pump prime anymore. So checked relays, fuse and fuel pressure, and replaced it along new fuel filter and now it primes and we got fuel pressure. Still won't start. Tested voltage at fuel injectors, it was good. No spark coming from ignition control module (ICM), took it out and had it tested at Autozone, PepBoys and Oreilly. Passed 3 test and failed 2. Seeing how it passed 3 out of 5 it should at least had started those those 3 out of five times I tested it. Since I'm low on money I need some helpful advice on whether its the ICM. My friend suggested it was the crankshaft sensor, and someone else said the computer on the car died. as well as a timing chain issue. However I was warned by the check engine light prior to it dying and the loss of horsepower while driving prior to it dying. Any advice? I found a way to get rid of all the car problems right now by pushing it off a cliff but unfortunately I need it for work.

P.s. I'm thinking the "security" (my key has a little metal thing on it) feature which kills my car is the culprit, but if it is engaged won't it also disengage fuel as well.

Response From Hammer Time

You don't have a security system problem.

You need to follow these instructions.

All "crank, no start" conditions are approached in the same way. Every engine requires certain functions to be able to run. Some of these functions rely on specific components to work and some components are part of more than one function so it is important to see the whole picture to be able to conclude anything about what may have failed. Also, these functions can ONLY be tested during the failure. Any other time and they will simply test good because the problem isn't present at the moment.
If you approach this in any other way, you are merely guessing and that only serves to replace unnecessary parts and wastes money.



Every engine requires spark, fuel and compression to run. That's what we have to look for.

These are the basics that need to be tested and will give us the info required to isolate a cause.

1) Test for spark at the plug end of the wire using a spark tester. If none found, check for power supply on the + terminal of the coil with the key on.


2) Test for injector pulse using a small bulb called a noid light. If none found, check for power supply at one side of the injector with the key on.


3) Use a fuel pressure gauge to test for correct fuel pressure, also noticing if the pressure holds when key is shut off.

4) If all of these things check good, then you would need to do a complete compression test.

Once you have determined which of these functions has dropped out,
you will know which system is having the problem.

Response From turysal

Fuel pressure is good, injectors good and were tested for power and were receiving it but no ground. New fuel pump as of yesterday.

Compression gauge readings good for an engine with this many miles.

Ran spark plug test through each wire, no spark. Took ignition control module out and had it tested at three different place, Autozone, pepboys, oreilly. Failed the two test at Oreilly but passed test at Autozone and Pepboys.
Replaced Crankshaft Sensor right now. Still no start.
I'm almost out of money and buying a new Icm and finding out that not it would be bad (financially) since most stores don't allow return for such items.

Response From Hammer Time

I don't want to hear this is good and that is good. I want to hear specific numbers and specific test results and how they were done.

Response From turysal Top Rated Answer

Also forgot to mention, there is power going to the ICm. had the wires leads going to icm tested.

1993 olds cutlass ciera s won't start and stalls

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Question From rose701 on 1993 olds cutlass ciera s won't start and stalls

1993 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera S-
About 6 months ago I took a short drive (less than 5 miles) - parked the car and 40 minutes later it would crank but not start. That first time I returned to the vehicle about 7 hours later and it started right up. This has happened repeatedly in the last 6 months. It was completely random and the short drive theory went out the window when it would happen after a long drive. I determined that if I waited 15 or 20 minutes that the car would start. I took the car to a local shop and the proprietor told me it could be one of many things - probably a sensor or fuel pump related problem. This after the car started uneventfully all day for him. We decided to just leave it alone and hoped that it was just a fluke and wouldn't happen again.

Four times in the last four days the vehicle just stalled while going down the highway. I pulled over - turned on my flashers - rolled to a stop and the car restarted like there was nothing wrong. Last night the vehicle stalled and would not restart. I waited for a ride and abandoned the vehicle on the roadside. Any theories? The engine is a 3.3 liter (160 hp) V6.



-Thanks, Chris

Response From kenworth_2009

I have a 1993 Olds Cutless Sierra S and I go through the same thing with my car. It is either Oxygen sensor or ECM. Both things can cause your car to stall and shut off. This particular year if you have a v-6 4 door sedan it has two censors on the exhaust system. You can google where it is particularly.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Good grief man - this thread is from 1997 and you expect anyone to read the whole thing first to answer your specific question. Read forum rules and start your own thread with your own specifics please. Thread locked.

T

Response From Guest

actually, if you unplug your torque converter, a outlet plug looking thing that plugs in the the front bottom of your engine, it won't do it again. What happens is your converter locks when it heats up, so it stalls not when you first start, or sit for a while, but after you've warmed up the car, and tried to hit the brake. trust me, it works on all Olds models that do it

Response From Guest

I appreciate your taking the time to view and respond to my post. It was the crankshaft sensor. Since replacement (almost 2 months ago) this Gremlin has been put to rest.

Response From Guest

I just caught it! I've been running the vehicle all day and stopping it for 30 minute to an hour clips to see if it would restart. Wala! No start. No spark. I put a jumper clip across coil and held it with insulated glove. Do you think I should replace ignition module? Is it possible that it's anything else? -Chris

Response From rose701

just to add. While I was standing there. Spark came back and car started.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

You might want to start a new thread on just where you are with this right now,

T

Response From rose701

I apologize for typing these little blurbs that probably did more to confuse than explain. I was just trying to keep you all in the mix and realized that what I was typing didn't really make sense - as your not here to see what's happening. My mechanic was unable to spend too much time with the vehicle prior to the Thanksgiving holiday. I decided to take the care home and try to repair it myself.
I first drove and then idled the car in driveway for several hours - intermittently shutting it down - and re-starting it 20 to 40 minutes later as would be the scenario prior to either the 'won't start' or stalling scenario.
Armed with your advice I listened for the fuel pump to energize. At some point during the day the vehicle would not restart. I pulled one of the plug wires and tested it for spark. There was none. I replaced coil wire - got back in the car and car started. I pulled coil wire again just to make sure I had good spark and that I was doing it correctly. Shut the vehicle down - attempted to restart and no spark again. Won't start - started - won't start all within the time frame of 10 minutes.
At some point during the day while vehicle was idling in driveway - I got a 'service engine soon' light on dash. I drove to auto zone and they hooked up computer. Code was 44 -Oxygen sensor (lean). Keep in mind this was before vehicle wouldn't start in driveway and I discovered the loss of spark.

Guy at auto zone printed out likely culprits. 02 sensor (NOT likely in failure to start scenario) Mass air flow sensor (also NOT likely in failure to start scenario) Ignition Control Module (most likely) given the random nature of the 'no start' and stalling scenarios.

Please let me know what you think. I never would have gotten this far without all your help. Should I replace ICM? Any idea where it is on my vehicle ('93 olds, 3300 V6)? The best I could come up with online was that it was located below the coil. This car has coil packs (3). Is it beneath them? Regards, Chris

FYI - Fuel pump never faultered. Energizing even when there was no spark.

Response From Tom Greenleaf Top Rated Answer

I agree that the ignition control module is most likely. It stinks because the thing is expensive and I'm not sure how it could be tested to be sure it's the problem as it does seem to be intermittent. Quite a while ago I had a car that just wouldn't run (no spark) when below about exactly 20F for 8 full hours but would be fine if started for just a few minutes at four hours like at a lunch break and could go indefinately if garaged. Never could test it out and did replace that ICM and in that one it didn't work. I'll never know with that car as it was traded for a new car the next day after a year of this nonsense when it would just plain work properly at all temps above 20F. Who knows and I don't know if that helps you decide on what to do. That was the module under the coil packs on an 88 Buick Park Ave 3.8 engine,

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Response From rose701

Hi Tom,
I purchased and installed an ignition control module. Let me cut to the chase. Drove until engine was hot. Stopped at my neighbors to let him
know I thought the problem was fixed and I'd be returning his borrowed car. Got into car and it wouldn't start. Just the same as before. Do you
think I should replace the coil blocks (3)? Thanks, Chris

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Are these separate coil blocks with separate wiring? I can recall just replacing on of three in some of these. In those cases the others kept working and engine was undrivable but it reacted. If you get nothing from any there has to be a common cause likely and not three failures at once. This is like playing black jack when you are counting cards to beat the odds and I hate being wrong but I just don't know how to advise much more on this one. Is anything even looking screwey with wiring connections to these items? Worth a check,

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Response From rose701

I did check the viability of the wires. They appear healthy. Is it possible the the computer is faulty? I'm inclined to replace the 3 coil blocks and if problem persists - replacing computer. I have noticed that when the car is running I'm getting an acrid (lean) smelling exhaust. I wonder how this might tie into the 'check engine soon' light and the code that came up low O2? It's conceivable that this is part of the original problem or a new one I guess. -frustrated but very much appreciative of yours and everyone elses input. Thanks, Chris

Response From rose701

Yes they are separate blocks each going to 2 plugs.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

I'm at a loss here. They really shouldn't all be bad. They did have to come off to do the module - right. Was there a common wire for each to share? I just can't remember. Looked for the old one that I saved that didn't solve a problem and must have given it away as that was many years ago. Coils that did give me trouble just showed arcing at the towers so diagnosis was easy.

The o2 code really shouldn't be the cause of this at the moment but is probably just sensing the lack of burned gasses goin by it/them at the moment.

A wild shot to try if you want: Unplug the neg battery cable for a few minutes and see if something resets?? Sorry - I'm as frustrated as you are right now. I feel like that guy on the old Airplane movie that said things like " I picked a great day to give up drinking"

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Response From rose701


Response From Guest

I have the '92 with the same problem. I changed the ICM and the car starts fine, however there is an intermittent misfire now when driving down the road. Perhaps I fouled a plug when the ICM went bad, think I'll change them next.

Response From rose701

Thanks for your input. I installed a new ICM yesterday. Problem still persists. Several of the kind people at this site have suggested the
crankshaft position sensor. I'm going there next . I'll let you know.
-Chris

Response From Tom Greenleaf

I think that's a good bet or the possibility of a common power fault to other stuff that could just shut the works down. Intermittent really stinks as well you know by now. Mr. way2old is on this as you know as best he can. Consider yourself blessed by one of the sharpest knives on the web!!

This thread is all over the place and I'm not going to try to consolodate it now.

Good luck,

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Response From rose701

So in a perfect world - given the wiring is not compromised - the only things that control the spark are the ICM and the 3 coil blocks? Does the vehicle CPU factor into the equation at all? In other words could a computer problem be sending faulty information to the ICM? -Chris

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Computer could be getting faulty info like from a cam postion sensor/crank sensor and perhaps it thinks the engine isn't turning at all??

AutoZone would show positions and location with perhaps some info on how to tell. I'm alone with you at this point. Wish the others would jump in as you can tell I'm struggling myself as to where to go next with this. A new thread would help once again stating what has already been ruled out,

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Response From rose701

I finally realize what you meant by starting a new thread. I've just been replying. I'm not very computer savvy and I finally asked my daughter what it meant to start a new thread LOL. So I've done just that and I pray to the automotive God's for intervention. Thanks again for your time and knowledge Tom. Regards, Chris

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Bear with me Chris. I'm not too swift with the damn 'puter sometimes either and I'm a moderator here!?!?

I'll try to move the last two up which will if it works shorten the thread so perhaps someone else will also read the post and make a comment about it. Forgive me if this fails and things are lost. The "PM" system here can get me directly and you can find it by clicking on my name above the kitty then lower right corner is the spot to click for sending a private message. Let's hope this works,

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Response From rose701


Does anyone know where to find the ignition control module on my '93 olds cutlass ciera. Thanks for all your help. -Chris

Response From Guest

Just an FYI. My mechanic was only able to run the car for a half a day before Thanksgiving holiday. It never stalled or coded. I picked car up yesterday and have been driving and running it all day. This morning 'check engine soon' light came on and I brought vehicle to auto zone where the code came up as 'low oxygen'. I'm still hoping vehicle won't start or stalls so I can listen to see if fuel pump is kicking in.

Response From Guest

I just had the exact same thing happen to me today going to Thanksgiving dinner. I have a 92 Cutlass Ciera with the same motor. Please post if you discover the problem, as mine will be towed into the shop tomorrow morning.

Response From Guest

By the way, my fuel pump did engage and disengage when the key was switched to the run position, and I replaced the fuel filter a couple months back.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

This about has to call for just tossing some things out as I don't think it will be known exactly what is wrong until it stays broken down.

It's possible a relay could do this and would be cheaper to start there. In the event there are no codes that might help I would just toss the relay for the fuel pump. Trouble with this type of problem is you really won't know if you hit on the right thing until you have ventured out into the asphault jungle enough times without it recurring to be reasonably sure it's solved.

It's tough to tell sometimes when an intermittent problem like this happens if the problem is fuel or spark related. Try to listen for the buzz of the fuel pump when it's down with just key in run position it should buzz and stop. If nothing is heard take note of that. If it stays buzzing away take note of that too. Ya - it's noisy on the side of the road and hard to hear. Got the T-Shirt on that one!

Start with the cheaper stuff and hope it's just that,

T

Response From Guest

Thanks for sharing your knowledge with me. Regards, Chris

Response From Guest

yeah i just went through the same problem, mine was the fuel pump. Tom's got that one right 4sure

Response From rose701

Thank you all again. Car is still at the shop. I asked my mechanice to change the FP relay if he didn't find anything else. I figured it would be a good starting point as per your advice.

1995 Oldsmobile 88 3.8L no start no codes

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Question From bobgee on 1995 Oldsmobile 88 3.8L no start no codes

1995
Oldsmobile
88
3.8L
122,000mi

Was driving down the freeway when all of a sudden I lost power . Was able to make it back home ok, but it died once at a stop sign.
It ran very rough and sluggish, at idle or under power.
It also seems to be getting worse. A few days after I got it home, I was able to start it again, but it would still run very rough. The other day though, it would barely keep running at all. Now it won't even start, just cranks.
car is showing no codes.
When I put the key to on, I can hear the fuel pump pressure up like normal, then it stops.
I did test the throttle position sensor with a multimeter and got good results with a smooth resistance curve across the movement.
I've also checked fuel pressure. It was reading about 47 psi.
I did get spark from a spark plug with an HEI spark tester.
When this test is good, it should indicate that the crank sensor is good, as well as the ICM. is this safe to say?

I'm getting odd results from the Noid lights connected to to the injector wires. I'm using the standard kit from Autozone rental. With multimeter I get 12v from each set of injector wires. The noid light does not light, however. When measuring the voltage with the noid light connected, the voltage drops to only a few millivolts. Upon cranking, there are no flashes from the noid light. There was 1 flash however, when I turned the key to on....but it's only done this once. One page I read said that noid lights may not light in all applications. Anyone have experience with my application and noid lights? or 1995 similar GM's?

So I tried to run it off a can of carb cleaner. It did fire up and run as well as could be expected from a can.
I guess this narrows it down to a fuel injector problem.

is it possible for all injectors to go out at once or will one bad one take all of them out. or is this a sign of whatever controls injector pulse is bad.

Response From Hammer Time

Check all your fuses first and then start testing for a failed ECM by verifying all the power and ground inputs to it.

Does the check engine light come on for bulb check when the key is first turned on?

Response From Discretesignals Top Rated Answer

More than likely the PCM is getting power and some type of ground or else the fuel pump wouldn't come on when the ignition is turned on. Examine your grounds at the transmission bellhousing bolts and make sure they are clean and tight.

Seeing the one pulse when the key was turned on is telling you that the driver is functional, but either isn't being controlled correctly by the PCM's logic, the PCM is in a false clear flood mode, or the PCM isn't receiving the cam or spark reference signals from the ignition control module (ICM). What some people don't understand is that even with the PCM unplugged the ICM will produce sparks and the engine will run on spray.

Your next venture is to get codes read in the PCM and to check for cam and spark reference signal patterns to the PCM using an oscilloscope.

Response From bobgee

thanks for replying.
any tests to verify cam sensor?
check engine light does come on.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

'95 GMs may not pull codes without some dealer help as OBDI+II could be complicating readings on that specific year.

Two engine styles available, I code or K code but probably not relevant. It has a cam sensor too on the maybe list of why a noid light won't blink for you hence no fuel delivery,

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