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1996 Subaru Legacy Engine Cylinder Head Gasket 4 Cyl 2.5L Victor Gaskets

P311-1F20B83    54334  New

11044 AA610 , 11044 AA443 , 11044 AA471 , 11044 AA442 , 26167 PT

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Victor Gaskets Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • ; Multi-Layered Steel
  • Product Attributes:
    • Additional Package Contents: Head Gasket
    • Cylinder Bore Diameter:
      • 101.98
      • 4.02
    • Cylinder Head Gasket Material: Multi-layered Steel
    • Gasket Sealant Included: No
    • Item Grade: Oem Standard
    • Material: Multi-layered Steel
    • Package Quantity: 1
    • Thickness:
      • 0.05
      • 1.30
    • Torque To Yield: Yes
  • MAHLE® gaskets provide world class sealing products trusted by OEMs & Technicians around the globe.
  • Suggested Purchase Quantity: 2
    • Most jobs typically require 2 of this item.
Brand: Victor Gaskets
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Vehicle Block Engine CID CC
1996 - Subaru Legacy H 4 Cyl 2.5L - 2458
Victor Gaskets
1999 Subaru Legacy Engine Cylinder Head Gasket 4 Cyl 2.2L Victor Gaskets

P311-414E818    54423  New

11044 AA542 , 035-2084 , 26415 PT

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Victor Gaskets Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • ; Multi-Layered Steel
  • Product Attributes:
    • Additional Package Contents: Head Gasket
    • Cylinder Bore Diameter:
      • 3.87
      • 98.24
    • Cylinder Head Gasket Material: Multi-layered Steel
    • Gasket Sealant Included: No
    • Item Grade: Oem Standard
    • Material: Multi-layered Steel
    • Package Quantity: 1
    • Thickness:
      • 0.02
      • 0.53
    • Torque To Yield: Yes
  • MAHLE® gaskets provide world class sealing products trusted by OEMs & Technicians around the globe.
Brand: Victor Gaskets
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Vehicle Block Engine CID CC
1999 - Subaru Legacy H 4 Cyl 2.2L - 2212
Victor Gaskets
2003 Subaru Impreza Engine Cylinder Head Gasket 4 Cyl 2.0L Victor Gaskets

P311-25F6D78    54467  New

26537 PT , 11044 AA482 , 11044 AA483

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Victor Gaskets Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • ; Multi-Layered Steel
  • Product Attributes:
    • Additional Package Contents: Head Gasket
    • Cylinder Bore Diameter:
      • 3.63
      • 92.15
    • Cylinder Head Gasket Material: Multi-layered Steel
    • Gasket Sealant Included: No
    • Item Grade: Oem Standard
    • Material: Multi-layered Steel
    • Package Quantity: 1
    • Thickness:
      • 0.02
      • 0.55
  • MAHLE® gaskets provide world class sealing products trusted by OEMs & Technicians around the globe.
  • Suggested Purchase Quantity: 2
    • Most jobs typically require 2 of this item.
Brand: Victor Gaskets
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2003 - Subaru Impreza H 4 Cyl 2.0L - 1994
Ishino Stone
1986 Subaru DL Engine Cylinder Head Gasket Ishino Stone

P311-5A9A9BF    W0133-1634114  New

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Ishino Stone Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • ; 2 per Engine
Brand: Ishino Stone
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle
1986 - Subaru DL
Nippon Reinz
2003 Subaru Impreza Engine Cylinder Head Gasket 4 Cyl 2.0L Nippon Reinz

P311-408C949    W0133-1836952  New

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Nippon Reinz Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
Brand: Nippon Reinz
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Vehicle Block Engine CID CC
2003 - Subaru Impreza H 4 Cyl 2.0L - 1994
Nippon Reinz
2005 Subaru Impreza Engine Cylinder Head Gasket 4 Cyl 2.0L Nippon Reinz

P311-408C949    W0133-1836952  New

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Nippon Reinz Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • ; 2 per Engine
Brand: Nippon Reinz
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Vehicle Block Engine CID CC
2005 - Subaru Impreza H 4 Cyl 2.0L - 1994
Nippon Reinz
2002 Subaru Impreza Engine Cylinder Head Gasket 4 Cyl 2.0L Nippon Reinz

P311-408C949    W0133-1836952  New

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Nippon Reinz Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • ; Production: 03/01/2001-
Brand: Nippon Reinz
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Vehicle Block Engine CID CC Prod. Date Range
2002 - Subaru Impreza H 4 Cyl 2.0L - 1994 Fr:03-01-01
Ishino Stone
2004 Subaru Baja Engine Cylinder Head Gasket Ishino Stone

P311-3C26C8A    W0133-1837910  New

Qty:
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Ishino Stone Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • Subaru suggests use of SOA635071 Cooling System Conditioner to avoid coolant leaks.
Brand: Ishino Stone
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Aspiration
2004 - Subaru Baja Naturally Aspirated
Ishino Stone
2004 Subaru Baja Engine Cylinder Head Gasket Ishino Stone

P311-3C26C8A    W0133-1837910  New

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Ishino Stone Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • Multi-Layered Steel
  • Subaru suggests use of SOA635071 Cooling System Conditioner to avoid coolan t leaks. NOTE: Upgraded Head Gasket 3-Layer MLS
Brand: Ishino Stone
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Aspiration
2004 - Subaru Baja Naturally Aspirated
Ishino Stone
2002 Subaru Forester Engine Cylinder Head Gasket Ishino Stone

P311-3C26C8A    W0133-1837910  New

Qty:
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Ishino Stone Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
Brand: Ishino Stone
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle
2002 - Subaru Forester
Ishino Stone
2005 Subaru Forester Engine Cylinder Head Gasket Ishino Stone

P311-3C26C8A    W0133-1837910  New

Qty:
39.54
Ishino Stone Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • Multi-Layered Steel
Brand: Ishino Stone
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Aspiration
2005 - Subaru Forester Naturally Aspirated
Ishino Stone
1999 Subaru Impreza Engine Cylinder Head Gasket 4 Cyl 2.5L Ishino Stone

P311-3C26C8A    W0133-1837910  New

Qty:
39.54
Ishino Stone Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • ; Production: 07/1998-
Brand: Ishino Stone
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Block Engine CID CC Prod. Date Range
1999 - Subaru Impreza H 4 Cyl 2.5L - 2458 Fr:07-00-98
Ishino Stone
1999 Subaru Impreza Engine Cylinder Head Gasket 4 Cyl 2.5L Ishino Stone

P311-3C26C8A    W0133-1837910  New

Qty:
39.54
Ishino Stone Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • Multi-Layered Steel
  • ; Production: 07/1998-
Brand: Ishino Stone
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Block Engine CID CC Prod. Date Range
1999 - Subaru Impreza H 4 Cyl 2.5L - 2458 Fr:07-00-98
Ishino Stone
2000 Subaru Legacy Engine Cylinder Head Gasket Ishino Stone

P311-3C26C8A    W0133-1837910  New

Qty:
39.54
Ishino Stone Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • ; Production: 06/1999-
Brand: Ishino Stone
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Prod. Date Range
2000 - Subaru Legacy Fr:06-00-99
Ishino Stone
2000 Subaru Legacy Engine Cylinder Head Gasket Ishino Stone

P311-3C26C8A    W0133-1837910  New

Qty:
39.54
Ishino Stone Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • Multi-Layered Steel
  • ; Production: 06/1999-
Brand: Ishino Stone
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Prod. Date Range
2000 - Subaru Legacy Fr:06-00-99
Ishino Stone
2002 Subaru Impreza Engine Cylinder Head Gasket 4 Cyl 2.5L Ishino Stone

P311-3C26C8A    W0133-1837910  New

Qty:
39.54
Ishino Stone Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • ; Production: 03/01/2001-
Brand: Ishino Stone
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Block Engine CID CC Prod. Date Range
2002 - Subaru Impreza H 4 Cyl 2.5L - 2458 Fr:03-01-01
Ishino Stone
2002 Subaru Impreza Engine Cylinder Head Gasket 4 Cyl 2.5L Ishino Stone

P311-3C26C8A    W0133-1837910  New

Qty:
39.54
Ishino Stone Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
  • Multi-Layered Steel
  • ; Production: 03/01/2001-
Brand: Ishino Stone
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Block Engine CID CC Prod. Date Range
2002 - Subaru Impreza H 4 Cyl 2.5L - 2458 Fr:03-01-01
Ishino Stone
2005 Subaru Forester Engine Cylinder Head Gasket Ishino Stone

P311-35BF615    W0133-1768295  New

Qty:
42.59
Ishino Stone Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
Brand: Ishino Stone
Additional Fitment Information:
Vehicle Aspiration
2005 - Subaru Forester Turbocharged
Nippon Reinz
2008 Subaru Outback Engine Cylinder Head Gasket 6 Cyl 3.0L Nippon Reinz

P311-12DF069    W0133-1780496  New

Qty:
48.70
Nippon Reinz Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
Brand: Nippon Reinz
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Vehicle Block Engine CID CC
2008 - Subaru Outback H 6 Cyl 3.0L - 3000
Nippon Reinz
2008 Subaru Impreza Engine Cylinder Head Gasket Nippon Reinz

P311-35CF77A    W0133-1910708  New

Qty:
46.32
Nippon Reinz Engine Cylinder Head Gasket
  • This Original Equipment Manufacturer part is the same part that was made & installed by the car manufacturer at the factory where the car was produced.
Brand: Nippon Reinz
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Vehicle Aspiration
2008 - Subaru Impreza Turbocharged

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1998 Subaru Legacy Wagon Radiator/Coolant Leak

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Question From yeahnick on 1998 Subaru Legacy Wagon Radiator/Coolant Leak

1998
Subaru
Legacy
2.2L
160k miles


So, my friend took her car (one above) to Jiffy Lube, gets an oil change, fluids topped off, whatever, then goes to Maui for a week. Lets her friend borrow the car, she gets back her friend says the car is out of coolant, leaks, blah blah. She calls me tells me the whole thing, so I think it's the heater core at first because she mentioned no heater, but low coolant = no heat as well.

Anyways, she drives it over, its leaking pretty bad through the bottom, and I can't see much cause it's dark. So I assume it's her radiator, girl is very very cheap, so I order the least expensive new radiator I can find that has decent reviews (50 bucks shipped, new).

This morning in the rain, I procede to take out the radiator. Fins look good, few bent ones nothing crazy, nothing that tells me it's leaking. I look at the spot where the upper radiator hose attatches and it's sort of warped on one side, it should be circular, but it's flat on one side.

Anyways, should I replace the radiator anyways, or attatch the hose high enough so it's not on the flat warped part, or will it just warp again soon anyways? I will probably pressure check the radiator to make sure it's not leaking, just plug bottom and top and poor water in the fill with a hose or something, ya?

Any help is much appreciated, thanks!

Nick

Will upload pics as soon as I find a host for them! (soon)

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Response From Discretesignals

Before you took the radiator out you should have pressure tested the coolant system with the engine cold to determine the leak source(s).

If you suspect the radiator has a fault, you should replace it. Doesn't make sense to take your chances on an old aluminum radiator that could destroy a $3000 engine. Flush out the system and replace the radiator cap too. Once you have the new radiator installed and refilled, pressure test the coolant system and check for leaks.

Being a 98, the hoses have probably deteriorated inside. Try to get cheap ass to replace the hoses. Nothing last forever and unless she wants to keep driving the thing or she is not planning on selling it soon, she needs to put some money into it to maintain it.

Response From yeahnick

Hey, thanks so much! Yeah, definitely.

Great, that's what I'll do!

Yeah, had to sell her 05 Prius, and I actually found this car for a decent price for her, it's still a good deal after I put the radiator in. But yeah, gonna have to last at least ~2 years or so of grad school and until financial stability.

Response From nickwarner

Is that duct tape I see on that hose? New hose is cheaper than new engine.

Response From MarineGrunt

I was thinking either duct tape or that foil tape, but he did say she was a cheap ass, so I'd say you're right with the duct tape.

Response From yeahnick

Yeah, it's duct tape. Was there when she got the car, but yeah, :-/.

So... Radiator inlet looks toast?

Response From nickwarner

Yes, and the hose too. I wouldn't be trusting a $50 radiator either. That car isn't going to last through college when the epoxy that holds the plastic tank to the aluminum core cracks, though the MacGuyver job on the hose would burst pretty much anytime anyway. Then when she doesn't bother to look at the temp gauge and the red overtemp idiot light flashes morse code screams of "STOP ME PLEEAAASSSSEEEE" she cracks the block and warps the heads into a pretzel.

New hoses and a new radiator are the only way to prevent such obvious impending failures from happening, and she'll save a lot of money on duct tape. There is no sense trying to be penny wise yet dollar foolish. I can understand not wasting money frivolously, but putting a duct taped hose and a $50 radiator into this and thinking its just as good as new is like playing russian roulette with 5 live rounds. Well, MAYBE you could be the lucky one but I doubt it.

Response From yeahnick

Yeah, if it were my car I would do exactly that. So I'll go ahead and take care of it as if it were mine, thanks guys!

Response From nickwarner

Sometimes you can't just do what she wants, you have to act in her best interests. She may not be happy about the money but if you tell her you found such and such part bad while you were in ther or it was in such bad shape if came apart when you pulled it out she might understand. You have to get her to trust you and your abilities. My girl never questions what I do with the cars. Then again, I'm the one that bought them and I'm the one paying for parts so I guess she has no say anyhow.

One piece of advice for the future is to never look at a car problem without a very bright light, and the LED flashlights are dirt cheap now so get a few. Put one in your house, one in the glovebox, etc. But never order parts based on a general direction of a leak that you saw in the dark. Even in daylight I get out the light to be 100% positive I am right.

Let us know how this works out for you and if any complications come up we can walk you through it.

Response From yeahnick

Ok, new radiator is in and working good, actually looks like a pretty decent radiator for 50 bucks, everything fits, etc.

Anyways, car is leaking, peaked underneath to find it, its looking like the water pump. So that's a bummer. I don't have a garage, doing this in the street and don't have enough time to fix this myself (I have to write and defend my Master's Thesis in the next month). Taking the car to the shop I use to have them put in a new one for ~320$ minus the cost of the water pump.

Friend says she just wants the car to last a year and doesn't want to put any money into she doesn't have to. Might try and convince her a car is more of an investment and the better you take care of it the better the re-sale.

Also replaced the top and bottom radiator hoses, and going to have a new thermostat installed, while they're in there I'll have them check the timing belt and tensioner, I might go ahead and buy those and if they don't need to be replaced just return them...

Response From yeahnick

Update:

Had to replace tension-er, and unfortunately found a gutted thermostat in place of where a real thermostat should be. Had my mechanic put a real thermostat in there with the new water pump, he noted the head-gaskets were leaking oil and so were the cam-seals and crank seals. I had him just put it back together drove it around a little bit, and now it's misfiring like crazy. I'm assuming head-gaskets are blown now and going to actually fixed it like I should have when I heard all those seals were going. Anyways, some lessons are hard to learn. Don't flame too much, I'm positive I should have just had everything replaced the first time it was apart,

Response From Discretesignals

It's not uncommon for those to blow head gaskets and also leak oil from the head gaskets. She better be making you dinner and folding your clothes for all your doing for her.

Response From yeahnick Top Rated Answer

In actuality I was the one who advised her to buy this car in the first place, it was mechanic owned, the guy has a shop. Anyways I thought he was a trustworthy guy, said he did head gaskets and timing belt. Yah, so I really feel responsible, though all I have been doing is trying to help. My pride is hurt, can't believe that guy swindled me.

Response From Discretesignals

A holes like that gives us honest mechs and techs a bad name. I wouldn't even class that person as a mechanic.

Response From nickwarner

Well, lesson learned. Doesn't help that someone gutted that stat before. Good luck on that thesis.

1990 subaru legacy gauge show overheating while idling

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Question From Guest on 1990 subaru legacy gauge show overheating while idling

I have a 1990 subaru legacy. the heating gauge reads hot every once in a while but the car does not feel abnormally hot. It does this mostly while the car is idling. What could cause this besides thermostat and radiator? the dreaded anser is head gasket! Lisa

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Is fan coming on for radiator?

T

Response From Guest

yes fan kicks on

Response From Tom Greenleaf Top Rated Answer

90 Subaru temp gauge reads overheat at idle - intermittently - fan is on:

Ok: Now start the list of ......

1. Coolant must be known full and staying there.

2. Can you feel heat in the air blowing off from engine fan?

3. Does heater work and change output temps with the gauge or quit blowing heat completely?

4. Does the temp gauge just shoot to max and then return to a normal reading instantly?

***********

Trying to zoom in on just what is going on. Erratic gauge reading or a real problem.

The water pump may be failing to pump adequate volume of coolant when at idle or low speeds. If raising idle while running warm begins to lower temp we may need to put that on the suspect list.

Head gasket could be adding combustion gasses appearing as air in the cooling system. Erratic temp readings would be seen, heater would be intermittent and you would notice overflow bottle too full quickly in conjuction with coolant at the radiator itself not staying full. See if you can observe things like that.

Things that could further help diag this:

a. A cooling system pressure test.

b. Flush cooling system noting how much junk may come out.

Try not to allow real overheats till we get to the bottom of this. If just gauge reading is screwed up that will take other observations to nail that down as the problem,

T

Oil leak in head gasket..

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Question From tafkadb on Oil leak in head gasket..

Car is a 2002 Subaru Forester, 110k. Had it in yesterday to determine why there were small amounts of oil forming under it during the last week. Part of the problem was the result of a poor job done during the last oil change and is now fixed, but the dealer found a very minor oil leak in the head gasket.

I know next to nothing about auto repair, and I'm wondering what everyone here would expect to pay to get this fixed. I was given a quote of 1800. I'm also wondering whether this is something that has to be fixed (the mechanic seemed to indicate that it is not urgent but ought to be fixed if I planned on driving the car for another 100k or so) or if I could let it go or even do some non-expert maintenance to it to avoid any problems.

Thanks.

Response From mikethomsun Top Rated Answer

Oil leakage in head gasket is due to several reasons, when the joint surface is not cleaned propley or damage, The cylinder head bolts or nuts have been tightened incorrectly, another cause of warping.





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Response From Tom Greenleaf

Appreciate your saying you knew next to nothing as that helps us help you!

What went wrong with this last oil change to cause you to saying that it was poorly done? Did they spill oil? Did you complain or bring up an oil leak where you park or something?

Yes a head gasket could leak oil but so far I suggest another option based on what you said.

Without fail - learn how to check your own oil manually, watch it and all gauges and warnings till a credible diagnosis has you convinced,

T

Response From tafkadb

Basically, I was finding spots of oil under my car. So, I took it in to get checked and they found some issues.

I don't know what exactly was wrong, but they changed the oil while it was in and said that once they changed it the issue was gone. So, that is totally resolved and not an issue any longer

The other source was the head gasket. It has very minor leaks on both sides and even this morning I found small spots of oil in my driveway.

I'm mainly wondering what I should reasonably expect to pay to get it resealed or beyond that, if I even need too.

Response From zmame

like Tom said clean it very well I would also add dye to the oil so you can pinpoint where it's coming from. I do know that those Subaru boxer style engine are know for headgaskets, but not sure how they leak internaly or externaly.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Z - anyone: I think they can leak any dang way they feel like it but both the exact same way at the same time I just don't find very common??

Tom

Response From zmame

I guess I should have worded that better. I don't know which way the headgaskets commonly leak.. as far as weather it's the head gaskets or not if they did not degrease the engine and re-inspect then it's not properly diagnosed(in my opinion). I would get a second opinion for sure odds are it wouldn't be leaking from both head gaskets, but weirder things have happened.

Response From Mr.scotty

And they are sure it's not just the valve cover gasket leaking down on to the head making it look like the head gasket is leaking?
I would clean the engine up the best i could then drive it for a few days and keep checking and see if you can see what's leaking before it drips onto anything else.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

I'm not there looking which hurts for something like this. I just find it interesting that two head gaskets both are leaking just this way?!

Anything is possible but head gaskets can leak anything they seal in any direction and for two to have the exact same issue and you would do both if one was bad just seems unlikely to me.

If you can identify the spot, clean it - heck - put talcum power on it and watch the trail or get a diagnosis that's credible as so far I'm not totally convinced and do think techs are mostly not trying to make up work for no real reason and not saying that but would like to see this diagnosed for sure, not guessing,

T

[ Pictures Added ] 1999 Subaru Legacy Harmonic Balancer Woodruff key tightened in wrong position so was never locked?

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Question From cpr on [ Pictures Added ] 1999 Subaru Legacy Harmonic Balancer Woodruff key tightened in wrong position so was never locked?



1999 Subaru Legacy 30 Anniversary Edition Harmonic Balancer failure.

Hello I need help with a situation involving a Harmonic Balancer for a 1999 Subaru Legacy Sedan

About a month ago the head gaskets blew and had to be replaced. Yesterday while driving the power steering stopped and all of the lights on the dash lit up, then the radio died and then the brakes were almost gone but enough to glide to a gas station with a repair shop. Once there the car would no longer start.

The new mechanic after an inspection (originally had said that there was a separated or broken crank shaft) told me that I needed to replace the Harmonic Balancer and that the bolt was not put on correctly. He also said that the last mechanic was responsible since they had to put it on when the head gaskets were replaced.

I called the other mechanic and had them talk to each other. When I called back he told me that what the new mechanic was saying was impossible and that the bolt would have blown right away. Unfortunately the two mechanics are 45 miles apart so he cannot just go and look at the car of easily have it towed over to his shop.

The car was driven a few hundred miles before the failure and I do not know what to believe or if there is some sort of misunderstanding and both parties are correct.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

132,000 miles
All-wheel-drive,
2.5 liter DOHC fuel injected 4 cylinder
16 Valve boxer engine,
165 horsepower, 162 ft. torque
Power variable assist rack and pinion.
Anti-Lock Brakes,
heavy duty 10.7 dual caliper, vented front disk,
10.5" rear disk

Response From cpr Top Rated Answer

$300 later the car is working fine. Here are some photos of the broken part. Mechanic said it was obvious that it was an installation error and not a part that just decided to break.

Drove about a 1000 miles in between.

Thank you again for all your help.

Namaste

Response From Sidom

Thx 4 letting us know the outcome....

They say a picture is worth a 1000 words.....

I won't go on & on...... I'll just leave it at

"Wow....There's really not a lot you can say about that....it's pretty obvious"

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Thank You for coming back with what was found and now I tend to agree. I'm still surprised it made it very far at all. Great that this could be fixed for just $300 -- I was real worried about that causing a real nightmare.

I'll see if just one pic will direct post for archives,

Thanks,

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Response From cpr

The mechanic is saying that the Woodruff key was tightened in the wrong position and was never locked. He said it was clear that it was a result from being put back on and was obvious when looked at.

The previous mechanic says that if it was done incorrectly that it is a very long bolt and that it would have came undone right away and not after being driven for a month but is willing to look at the old part to determine if they are at fault.

Thanks for all of your input it is greatly appreciated.

Namaste

Response From Sidom

Well that's a good sign he is willing to look at it. Most shops if they caused the problem will step up and take care of it.
If it was a defective part or a bolt that broke then you can't really hang that on the shop.

This is where it's better to let the tech who can "see it" make the call........ I'm not sure what he meant by the "keyway (woodruff) installed in the wrong position", there is only one position for it. Even if he put the key in backwards (some can be installed backwards, others have no frt or back), he would've had trouble getting the balancer on, but once it was on, if the keyway didn't fall out it would've held....


The bottomline for me would be, either show me a defective part or explain to me a very convincing theory on how a part that was removed & installed came off in such a short amount of time......

Just a quick look from the shop owners side. He has to judge what type of customer he is dealing with. We won't even go into the bad ones because this isn't the case here (but he has to deal with those as well). Sometimes when work is performed on cars, other areas fail thur no fault of the tech (sometimes right there in the shop). The customers stand point is, the car was fine, I never had this problem before until you worked on it. Normally it can be logically explained and shown that it was just something else that fail but it usually never goes over well and more times than not, the dishonest mechanic card is played. That is probably where he is at right now, trying to figure out "what happened?" Was there a defective part? Did something break? Has someone else worked on this car since?

If it's obvious one way or the other, he will probably do the right thing....

My lastest......An 05 F150 came in for a diag & lof AND window diag..... The lady stopped at B/K for coffee on the way to the shop & regulator cable broke while she was in the drive thru and the window fell into the door. The SA & I argured for 10 minutes about who the lucky one was....My theory was he was the lucky one....that cable would've broke on me if she hadn't of stopped & he would've got his azz chewed out bigtime..... His theory was, I was lucky because I would've been doing the motor & regulator for free...... at the end we agreed we were both lucky.......Not lucky she had a problem, lucky her problem didn't happen in our care.........

Response From Sidom

Wow...A gas station with a repair shop....Now there is a dying breed you just don't see too much of anymore. which is really unfortunate but like anything, a sign of the times we're living in.....(Man I have a ton of great stories.....ok,ok enough nostalgia)

This is a tough situation and the key point is really vague, "the bolt was not put on correctly"

With any repair, when something comes apart or fails in an area that you worked, while it's not a guarantee it's tech error, it's pretty much "guilty until proven innocent". I may not agree with this, it's just the way it is.....

I think in this case it would come down to how the bolt came off. If it simply fell out, that would be a sign it wasn't tightened properly. If the head of the bolt broke off, that would've been a defective part.

I see where the repair is a month old but didn't catch how many miles have been put on the car since then........

Response From cpr

I am not sure exactly how many miles we have driven but I would estimate about four to five hundred. Went on a long drive the day before (187 miles as google flies) with no symptoms.

I realize the key point is kind of vague and hope to learn more tomorrow morning. When I hear all of this talk its like the school teachers in a peanuts cartoon but tomorrow I will write everything down since this is not being easily resolved as I hoped it was going to be.

Thank you for the insight

Namaste

Response From Tom Greenleaf

cpr: What is expected now to repair this? Just a new harmonic balancer and bolt? That and probably belt(s) as they would have tangled up and might have caused some other damage. Some engines would be hopelessly damaged if run without one and rather quickly.

This is going to be a rock and hard place IMO. It already needed head gaskets - WHY? Did you overheat this to cause that? Never say never but I don't know of this engine layout to be prone to blowing head gaskets as much as some.

Harmonic balancer is just as the word implies. It's there to balance out harmonic imbalance natural to an engine. The inside metal that bolts to crankshaft is isolated by rubber to the outside ring and absorbs the resonance. That rubber can fail even though rare to me it's happened. Heat or oil all over it can cause that and the forces of the "resonance" are remarkable and really could undo a properly tightened crank bolt - again IMO.

The question is and will remain a mystery as to whether the bolt wasn't properly tightened or the balancer failed so you'll want to have the balancer to see if it came apart. If it did and may not have, then it's lousy luck and could easily have been missed as defective OR somehow damaged in the course of removing it for the prior work.

In that this lasted a day it probably was properly installed but I can only guess. I'd have to do a research on the specific engine, rotation vs the threads of that bolt to see if the propensity is to loosen or to tighten by the resonant forces. Most engines take that into account OR use thread locking goo OR the item is pressed on as every harmonic balancer I've dealt with is and I haven't dealt with one on any Subaru by chance.

Seriously hard to say what happened or who's to blame. Should a tech have noticed a problem with the balancer? Not sure that would be so easy if it worked at all from the head gasket job. Should it always be replaced at a given interval or if removed - I really don't know on the particular engine but never heard of that.

If you are looking to get this remedied by the shop that did the head gasket work it's going to be tough,


T