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Door problem

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Question From fatdaddy on Door problem

2000
Mercury Mystique

To open the drivers door from the outside, I have to push the door it in and up with my knee when pulling the handle, or else nothing happens. It isnt a big issue for me, and i actually forgot about it because it has become second nature, but I just failed my annual safety inspection, so i have to get it fixed.
I am planning on taking the door apart and doing some investigating tomorrow, but I wanted to see if anyone had any ideas. Thanks so much.

Response From Hammer Time

They make repair kits with new pins and bushings.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Sure do but if out of the bronze bushing youz in trouble on some!

T

Response From Hammer Time

It sounds like the door may be sagging from worn out hinges. That is a job for a body shop.

Response From MarineGrunt Top Rated Answer

Definitely listen to Hammer Time on this one and don't try and attempt it at home. I have a buddy who is a mechanic for Caterpillar and also works on cars on the side. He's a very knowledgeable mechanic. There's a spring in there and you need a special tool to compress it. There was one time my buddy was replacing a hinge. I'm not sure what happened but he compressed the spring but it somehow worked out of the compressor. That thing shot across the shop at probably 100+ miles per hour, bounced off the wall, and came flying back and put a nice size dent in my wife's new van that she was getting for Christmas. I had just got the van the day before and was keeping in his shop until Christmas. If that spring would've hit one of us it probably would've been like a gunshot wound. I've always worked on my own vehicles but I don't think I'd mess with that spring. At least not with the way my luck goes!

Response From Tom Greenleaf

As HT and MG just said this is in the hinge. Seems nobody ever lubes them. Some are easy, some a total nightmare welded in!

Dunno for Mystique but may be cheap parts and still need help so a body shop will be best IMO as they have to deal with that all the time. Some POS cars you can just mess with the striker but that is faking it and by description you'll chip the crap out of the door being wrong,

T

used motor oil converted in to diesel feul

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Question From Guest on used motor oil converted in to diesel feul

Hi all, Does anyone know If it is possable to convert used motor oil in to a useable diesel type fuel. there is a web site that is selling the plans to do this? Thanks
http://www.freediesel.com.au/

Response From Guest

I am using a mixture as follows. Five gallons of used motor oil strained through a one micron filter, add one half gallon of gas and one gallon of diesel. The car will smoke a lit and you may experience some power loss. If the power loss is too great add two gallons of diesel per mix. I have noticed that transmission oil or used compressor oil works better than crank case oil. I don't add the diesel with the transmission or compressor oil. I do add the gas as a thinner. Transmission and compressor oil will smoke less.
Brad

Response From Guest

I have an 82 Mercedes. It will run fine on compressor oil and trany oil as long as you thin it with some gas. The same for engine oil mixed with trany oil. I have tried just used motor oil after straining it through a 5 micron filter and mixed 1 gallon of gas with 10 gallons of oil. It will smoke a lot and i have some power loss so at this point the trany and engine oil mix works the best. Used cooking oil is great if you can get it. Again be sure to check the thickness of the mix so it is no thicker than diesel. Diesel and engine oil works well but I don't really want to keep buying diesel even as a part of the mix.

Response From Hammer Time

Please start a new question if you would like a response.

Response From Guest

I bought the plans to the free diesel plant and after looking at the plans it will work, basically distilling the old oil and the vapour is condensed giving you diesel cant say much more due to confidenciality clause on purchase

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Then what is it you'd like to add to a four year old thread?

T

Response From Guest

I have ran used motor oil, transmission fluid, hydraulic fluid, dielectric fluid,mineral oil and etc.. in my 1995 chevy diesel. A diesel motor will run fine on any lightweight oil. When running used motor oil it would be a good idea to either mix it with diesel or run it in a heated separate tank (Same as WVO) the reason why is th viscosity is thicker than diesel and is harder for your lift pump and IP to pump (Potentail wear) at 160f all oils flow the same as diesel. as far as filtering, make sure no water or big chunks of anything is in it and pour it in. Anything that passes thru your main fuel filter is small enough to pass thru the injectors and burn up in the cylinder, blow out tailpipe. It will NOT plug your injectors! After a year of running this stuff (Mostly used ATF) my injectors look clean as new. I cannot run used motor oil straight as in the later model chevy's they have a optic sensor that is for timing. Unfortunately they put this device in the fuel itself and it cannot read correctly in black oil. Ford and Dodge should be fine.(Or early GM's)Everytime you do a search on this subject people will tell you how bad this is on your motor.Plugged injectors, ATF is corrosive (Don't want it in my tranny then either) are some of the things said. Once you de-bunk all that then the issue of the enviroment comes up even though if you look up waste oil burners (Which burn at a lower temp than a diesel combustion chamber) they all tout their product as "enviromently friendly" and they are EPA approved! I could go on all day but I think i'll just go fill up with some more used ATF and be on my way

Response From Guest

I am now burning veggie oil in my 99 F350 works great
i mix used engine oil ,diesel and injector cleaner .
Can i do the same with used engine oil?

Response From Guest

last msg was a typo i burn veggie oil can i do used engine oil the same as veggie oil??

Response From Guest

While I have never tried any used motor oil in my Jetta TDI, I have always used it in my tractors. In fact every type of oil used on a tractor goes in the tank when it gets changed. Well actually it goes in the pup tank with the ag diesel and filtered as it is pumped into our various tractors.

Response From Guest

I have an 97 f250. I burn a 50/50 mix of transmission fluid and diesel. No power loss with a little smoke. I had to replace the fuel pump after about 10,000 miles of burning this mix. Has anyone else experienced any fuel pump problems?

Response From Guest

trans fluid dosn't have much lubrication ,thats probably why your fuel pump is failing mix some synthectic oil in to help lube it. Two strokes have run on motor oil for years!

Response From Guest

FYI ON MOTOR OIL THE CURRENT PRICE ON THE MARKET FOR USED MOTOR OIL WAS .35 GALLON IF YOU SELL OVER 1,500 GALLONS AT A TIME. I think we are on to something .Think of all the express lubes out there that would like to sell or even power up the business with this. Getting off the GRID!

Response From Guest

We recently started using a used and filtered motor oil/Diesel mix in our fleet of 35 plus trucks of various brands. It seems to be working fine, but unknowing to me, someone also filled my 1980- 950 Cat Loader and it ran like CRAP. I wound up draining all 46 gallons out of the tank and replacing it with CLEAN DIESEL and changing the filter. The problem cleared right up. I'd think twice about using that junk in any Rig of mine. Good Luck

Response From Guest

If you would like to talk more with someone who can perhaps help explain why your CAT ran poorly, please talk to Mark Jordan who builds black fuel processors. Hope this helps.

E. B. McCool
Way Out There Creations
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Response From Guest

If anyone is looking for information regard petroleum based diesel black fuel processors, especially the Toby and CX-1 systems, please call Mark Jordan XXX_XXX_XXXX. He builds these systems and can customize units for most any diesel engine, old or new. He runs My Fast Fuels and is no longer affiliated with Josh Hall and Bluegrass Fuel Systems. Thank you. I hope this helps.
E.B. McCool
Way Out There Creations
Web Designer/Administrator for My Fast Fuels


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Response From Guest

Hello.New here...I have a 1981 datsun w/sd22 nissan motor.Wondering if I could run atf in it?It won't eat hoses?I looked into vegi-fuels-seems like alot of schlepping glop around-I'd appreciate any a
and all advice.Thanx brew
new to the net,so you send info to my Edress it would help...

Response From Guest

Wondering if I could run atf in it?It won't eat hoses?reply]

If ATF was corrosive I would not want to run it in my transmission!

Response From Guest

I am sure it is possible to turn used engine oil into a fuel, but the process would be rather complex. Similar to refining crude oil, distilling, cracking, etc. This would only work on conventional oils though as synthetics are desingned from the ground up to be lubricants and nothing else.
As using unrefined oil for fuel, I wouldn't do it. I would think the process of burning oil would create a lot more soot than normal fuel due to the heavier residuals in the oil not burning completely. Not to mention making sure you get ALL the particulates out of the oil before putting it in the system. You will be changing your fuel filter a lot more often. Some people also have emmissions test to worry about, if you are burning oil then you will most likely fail. Emmissions systems are desinged to handle burning fuel not burning oil.
If you want a good alternitave fuel, look into used cooking oil. It is very simple to refine and cost effective to produce. Plus it it tried and tested and works well, some say it works better than regular fuel. I have helped a couple of people design and build cooking oil refining units in their garages and they can produce upwards of 50 gallons of bio-diesel in one batch. If you can get the cooking oil for free you can produce bio-diesel for about 50 cents a gallon!

Response From Guest

removing the cat converter would fix that problem. Compression is high enough to light it off well and with no smoke under normal conditions. Lugging the engine isn't a good idea as this is hard on the lower end section the engine. Keeping it reved up to the torque limit rpm wise is the way you run a diesel engine anyways. There made to work and heat within reason doesen't hurt them either, as a matter of fact they run better and cleaner. Trans fluid mixed in at the approiate ammount keeps the enjectors cleaner too.

Response From satyaseo

what is the quantity of oil you pour in car, it is usually 3 to 5 ltr in fresh after that it is burned in car or become dirty, but we usually pour 2 to 3 ltr of deisel in our car per day. so who has time to remove the dirty oil and make fuel, however it was good to know, the dirty oil which we use to throw has some use, thanx.....


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Response From tractorboy

I do not know about the motor oil 1. it is dirty, i would not want that in my car, probably will clog the injectos and fuel fiters, plus little chips of metal and steel, plus impuritys like brake fluid, engine coolant that can kill expensive engine controls. I think the cooking oil is a better idea, by the way I heard you have to add a small amount of lime to the cooking oil. I also read an article about , was it Scotland or someplace that the government gets a lot of it's fundings from the diesel it sells, so the people started using cooking oil from the hamburger places ans diesel fuel sells dropped, so the gov forbid using cooking oil, strict fines , they have police going around smellining tail pipes to see if they smell lile McDonalds. Actually I think thats the way it will be in the future, the electric cars are just a stop gap. I predict that in the future all cars will be diesel and running on vegatable oil, and who has farm lands that can produce all that veggie oil...the USA, we will be the new MIDDLE EAST, all the refinnery towers will say WESTON on the side.

Response From Guest

It's Wesson

Response From Guest

Hi ,
have you done a test run on the above disel plan?

I will appreciate your spare time on this

kindly contact me on orobosaobude@yahoo.com

Response From Guest

Hi ,
I read the article and i will like to ask if you seen or know any1 that has used the diesel gotten from the engine oil. I m pretty interested.

Response From Guest

try using the www.dieselsecret.com product.when building your filter build it to step down to one micron.also prefilter it in a clean 5gal with a mesh screen and one cotton tee shirt whole shirt two layers of cotton.before you run it through your filters and 20 percent diesel-2 which should thin it down.i live in a hot climate so the sun does alot for me. this final product can be used with any ratio of diesel or bio you like and as long as you filter it properly any used motor oil any atf any hydrolic can be used.be sure your oil is free of water

Response From Guest

any more serious questions on this suject refer to bobis theoilguy or bobtheoilguy on a yahoo or google search seems to be lots of good info on that site

Response From TD52

I have been running diesel ever since the first one rolled off the line at Dodge in 89 and have owned 3 since then
I am looking at buying a new 2009 for my last one ( was thinking of used the one I have now for my last one but was very interested in the new suspension and the larger engine
also I only buy the Laramie version the fist one did not have that option just the slt
I was in the service and they have trucks that run on anything that you could run down the line and that includes gas you just switched over to a spark plug setting it lowered the compression but even perfume could be run down the line
or any other oil you could get be it used oil from a used oil after someone changed there motor oil and ATF
also now you can use CNG with diesel or propane also oil from a fryers at restaurants being military you have to be able to use what you can get have to use
so what it comes down to is that the fuel not gas in a diesel can be used as long as it is not to thick to run down the fuel line and it is clean so you Eng will not get plugged up and if you have a dodge nd use cat injectors it is 10 holes not the 5 so you can really get it clogged up
and if you live in a cold area the use #1 fuel but I use to drive trucks and there is a trick 1 can use so you do not have to use #1 fuel for every 50 gallons add 1 gallon of gas and it keeps thing from jelling and you still keep the lube from #2 fuel
and the person who wrote that CNG is going to take awhile so ppl can have it...but I think seeing that there are adds and city's using this gas so I am thinking there will be Hybrids very soon using this fuel with diesel
So I see that more and more diesel will be used along with CNG 1 is you get water as exhaust so this is a green product and 2 you get more HP and Torque and the best thing is mileage at 55060 mph you will get at least 35-40 mpg ....but if you go faster you get more mpg there have been some that have gotten up to 125 mpg but they changed the exhaust the fuel feed like a fass system a new set of injectors and a lot of air the more the better
also ppl have said it is corrosive ....false.... your diesel will take care of that
but all in all you end up with better pricing and testing new ways to get better mileage and have clean air can not be a bad thing

Response From Guest

My brother and I both run used motor oil in are Ford trucks. I have a 91 f350 with a plain 7.3, He has a 97 powerstroke. We mix it 50% old oil with 50% fuel in a barrow , let sit for a day or two and pump though a filter and mix that with more clean fuel in the tank to make a mix no greater then a 4 to 1 finel mix. When you settle out the dirt your filters last. You can also use the most dirtest oil you can fine. We both get more power and better mpg on this mix. No troubles at all. No smoke. No bad smell.

Response From Guest

In retrospect adding motor oil to diesel fuel isn't a bad idea. I've been a mechanic fore over 46 years and I use to start diesel engines with trans. fluid instead of either as it was easer to get and if I had a tired engine it would light off easier. Mixing oil and diesel and trans fluid together makes sense, because diesel is much drier than it use to be with all the sulphur missing and the lubricity of the fuel isn't good for older diesel enjector pumps that weren't designed for them. Drier fuel means less power for the buck and more wear on the enjector pump in my book. More oil to a degree gives better mileage and more energy as in B T U's. Diesel engines are more efficient than gas engines and are built better as they have to be stronger in design. Clean up that oil with a couple of filters, preferably a hydraulic filter and then a fuel filter. Never take oil from the bottom of the barrel where you store your drained oil, and never dump anti-freeze or coolant of any kind or brake fluid, or gasoline or any solvent into it. Or It will destroy the injector pump. Leave the pickup tube two or three inches from the bottom and use a suction screen, the finer the better. If you're in a colder climate it would be a good idea to use a pre-heater for the fuel before it enters the injector pumpafter you have put it in the fuel tank. Let the old engine oil stand for a week or so to let the contaminants drop out, like heavy metals and the like. Oil is safe to store in the garauge if you keep it away from anything that would start it to burn like a gas hot water heater or any kind of heater that would bring it to 150 degrees or so. Oil doesn't have the fumes like solvents and gasoline at room temp. Also keep away from moisture as barrels will expand with heat and if there is water standing on top of the barrel as it cools it could draw it in through the threads of the bung if there is no seal and besides you want it to breathe some so pressure can escape slowley.

Response From Guest

In retrospect adding motor oil to diesel fuel isn't a bad idea. I've been a mechanic fore over 46 years and I use to start diesel engines with trans. fluid instead of either as it was easer to get and if I had a tired engine it would light off easier. Mixing oil and diesel and trans fluid together makes sense, because diesel is much drier than it use to be with all the sulphur missing and the lubricity of the fuel isn't good for older diesel enjector pumps that weren't designed for them. Drier fuel means less power for the buck and more wear on the enjector pump in my book. More oil to a degree gives better mileage and more energy as in B T U's. Diesel engines are more efficient than gas engines and are built better as they have to be stronger in design. Clean up that oil with a couple of filters, preferably a hydraulic filter and then a fuel filter. Never take oil from the bottom of the barrel where you store your drained oil, and never dump anti-freeze or coolant of any kind or brake fluid, or gasoline or any solvent into it. Or It will destroy the injector pump. Leave the pickup tube two or three inches from the bottom and use a suction screen, the finer the better. If you're in a colder climate it would be a good idea to use a pre-heater for the fuel before it enters the injector pumpafter you have put it in the fuel tank. Let the old engine oil stand for a week or so to let the contaminants drop out, like heavy metals and the like. Oil is safe to store in the garauge if you keep it away from anything that would start it to burn like a gas hot water heater or any kind of heater that would bring it to 150 degrees or so. Oil doesn't have the fumes like solvents and gasoline at room temp. Also keep away from moisture as barrels will expand with heat and if there is water standing on top of the barrel as it cools it could draw it in through the threads of the bung if there is no seal and besides you want it to breathe some so pressure can escape slowley.

Just as diesel mechanic stated, the source of your used oil is the big thing to worry about. If you get it from a shop that dumps everything under the sun(anti freeze,etc..) into the same tank then I would spend more time settling,heating and filtering your oil. Just settling and pouring off the top (Leaving the sludge on the bottom 5-10% of the barrel). Water & antifreeze I would say is the biggest worry.Gasoline and other solvents will have a "washing" effect (No lubrication) and are not good although they will evaporate under heat and time (While stored in vented contaner). Brake fluids come in glycol and silicone based. Most are glycol based (Polyalkylene Glycol ether or Polyethylene glycol monomethyl borate ester). Glycol based are hydroscopic which means they absorb water. Typically there is not a large amount of brake fluid in waste oil drums but there could be (brake shop?). I would have to do more studying on this to give a accurate answer as to if the brake fluid itself (W/O absorbed water) is actually damaging to the IP (Doesn't hurt brakes), but neverless I would avoid it due to the fact it is very hydroscopic. ATF is a great source of fuel however. Many transmission shops will do a "flush" on tranny's. When they do this they stick a hose down the fill tube then pump out all the trans fluid. Then add so many quarts, then pump out,then add again,pump out,until clear. This process uses a lot of ATF. And for how much dirty ATF is pumped out 2-4 times that amount in clean ATF is wasted. As a result the waste ATF is typically very clean. Now if they dump that into its own barrel (You can talk them into this, I have!) and not will the motor oil,then you have a good source of fuel that does not take a lot of pre-filtering,heating,or settling to use.
Any way you get the stuff if you can somewhat control what is being dumped in the container by either working some deal with the auto shop or however, the better of you are. It gives you more peace of mind knowing whats in the mix!

Response From Guest

So i've been doin the veg oil thing and i'm a big fan. I would think that the waste motor oil would be fine just was getting confused reading the posts and wondered what the answer was about synthetic oils. ok or not?

Response From Guest

WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS SIMMALAR PROCESS BUT RAN INTO A PROBLEM. TRUCK WONT START AND HE THINKS IT IS THE COMPUTERS 300.00 FOR TWO, THE CRANK SENSOR AND THE ECM(?)250.00 FOR THAT ONE WOW. WE CLEAN THE OIL MANY TIMES DOWN TO 10 MICRONS AND IF ANY WATER WE HAVE HEATED IT TO 400 DEGREES TO EVAP ANY WATER IT WAS RUNNING REALLY WELL UNTILL HE PUT DIESEL IN IT. NORMALLY WE RUN STRAIGHT MOTOR OIL AND SOMETIME TRAN FLUID BUT I KNOW HE HEATS THAT UP EVERY TIME. please excuse my spelling

Response From Guest

This plant will convert Motor oil to Diesel

http://www.globalfinest.com/tech

http://www.globalfinest.com/tech

Response From Guest

Cycling the waste motor oil into the fuel tank of a diesel is nothing new. In the mid 80's I tried to talk the terminal manager into a portable system that was little more than a suction pump and filters to draw oil out of the engine, super filter it and dump it right into the fuel tank. With waste oil disposal fees of $3/gallon it made perfect sense. The old Detroits had a peculiar fault that caused runaway engine failures when sump oil was drawn in through the blower seals. The engine would run as fast as the oil flowed in to allow it and eventually would disintegrate from running out of oil or over revving.

Response From Guest

Is there a problem if there is synthetic motor oil in your waste oil?

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Not for when waste oil (synthetic) is used for heating anyway..........

T

Response From Guest

i have a 2005 duramax with minor air intake and cat back exhaust work done can i use used petroleum and synthetic based motor oil mixed in with the diesel fuel and if so with would be the ratio

Response From Guest

I recently bought an 83 Benz with the intention of converting it to run on grease. I have the kit 80% installed but the idea of also running the car on a diesel/oil mixture is attractive as I have access to that as well. Someone suggested using a 10 micron filter for straining the oil. Any thoughts on that? I also have access to #2 fuel oil. My understanding is that a diesel can run on this but since it is dyed it would give off a tell tale exhaust plume. Any thoughts on how to minimize or reduce that?

Response From Tom Greenleaf

I thought the dye trick was to indicate "untaxed" fuel but didn't think it made any changes in exhaust evidence - dunno....

T

Response From Guest

Very interesting reading. I have a mobile oil change business that i do part time, and am the only one who has changed the oil in a fleet of 100 vehicle's. Therefore, I can control what is in my used oil. I think that I am going to give this a shot. I will let you all know.

Response From Bluesdaddy

Well guys, heres the facts.. I have been making bio diesel from used cooking oil and mixing it 40 to 50% used and filtered motor oil and tranny fluid in my 2004 Silverado since brand new with no ill effects. The truck now has near 200,000 miles on it. The oil that I change from the crank case is very much cleaner then using straight diesel, which in comparason to my neighbors 2004 Silverado. He refuses to burn any alternative fuel. (his loss). My suggestion would be to get some tranny fluid, filter it with a guaility filter and add 25% to your diesel, you will see it will burn very well, So add more till you can tell a difference in performance, I find about 60% the truck starts showing poorer power. I use straight Bio when I can get the used cooking oil, when oil gets hard to get I start cutting with tranny and used motor oil. Here used motor oil and tranny fluids are harder for me to get. Good luck. Feel free to email me if you need any help with your formula. bluesdaddy@hotmail.com

Response From Guest

Well, I am very intrigued, and a little disapointed that I didn't know about this sooner!
To think of all the oil changes that I've done in the last year on our vehicles that could have offset my fuel costs makes me sad!

Right now, where I live diesel costs around $1.40/LITER (a little over $5 a gallon).
Could I go to Walmart and buy there cheapest oil which is probably less $4 a gallon? It would theoretically be perfectly clean oil. If I mixed this at say, 25% it could be a considerable savings in the long term.
The savings of course would be even greater if I settled, filtered and then used all my used oil from our vehicles.

What do you think?
Thanks!

Response From Guest Top Rated Answer

A friend of mine also bought the $1000 "Toby" kit from myfastfuel.com. It is a very rudimentary setup and can be made for less than $200 yourself. My friend has been running 80% used motor oil/20% red fuel in his 2000 Cummins and it loves it, more power, better gas mileage. He's also been putting it in his wife's Jetta TDI at a 5/95 ratio to start out and she noticed right away it had more power and better mileage, over 60mpg! He also runs it in all his heavy equipment which run better on it as well. Apparently Caterpillar makes a unit that pumps used motor oil directly from your equipment, filters it, and pumps it back in the gas tank, but it costs $15,000.
I ordered all the same stuff to make my own tank with pump and filters for a little over $200. I'm going to try it in my VW Touareg V10 TDI and start at a 95/5 ratio as well. Which isn't much of a savings since it's only 1 gallon per 20 gallons of diesel, but hopefully I can get it up to a 50/50 ratio without setting off too many sensors.. I'll post my results in a couple weeks. Feel free to email me if you are interested making this setup yourself.
Caleb.trainsmart@gmail.com


Response From Guest

Thinking of buying a diesel truck and burning uned oil. How many miles have you run your truck on used oils? What % used oil do you run? How does it work in the winter? Any problems w/ injectors, pumps, filters etc? Any feedback would be appreciated

Response From Guest

Amazing how someone who can't even spell wants to try to tell us that used motor oil is a scam. What a fine display of intelligence. Oil is a liquid hydrocarbon product that can be used for motor fuels, lubricants, hydraulics and burned for heat. Synthetic oils are nothing more than chemically altered liquid hydrocarbons. Burning any hydrocarbon requires understanding of the feedstock and the combustion byproducts. Hydraulic oils like ATF are laden with additives, just like motor oils. Many trucking companies blend waste crankcase oil into the fuel as part of the oil change process. It gets rid of the oil, which burns in the engine just fine, as well as the liability of handling it as hazardous waste. Running an engine on straight oil is questionable. Mixing it into known suitable fuels has been established practice for 50 years. And for the 2nd grade dropout who wants to make us believe this is a scam, a scam is a fraud perpetuated by someone who wants to trade something of value and offer something of misrepresented value in return. Since nothing more than academic knowledge has been offered here, somebody better stop playing around in areas they are not prepared to discuss intelligently.

Response From Guest

Hey, Arbogast, I just read this entire thread b/c I was thinking about buying that $1,000 kit to make diesel fuel out of waste motor oil. (You guys may have just saved me a lot of money!) It's at http://myfastfuel.com
One of my customers bought it and said he got his payback from fuel savings in about 6 months.

I think the poster who has no command of English was referring to plans for a kit that he bought online to make a "diesel fuel convertor". I didn't understand him to mean that "using oil as diesel fuel" was a scam. I think it was the plans he purchased.

From what you guys are saying about settling and pre-filtering before use, that kit isn't necessary at all. Water is heavier than oil and WILL settle to the bottom of the barrel or container, as will pieces of metal.

Oh, one other thing: Don't go 'round TELLING everyone you're doing this. The State will come after you for Road Use Taxes. According to my customer (above), one guy who bought that kit was sued by his state for $2,200, the amount they figured he owed for Road Use Tax.

Best regards to all! and thanks for the advice!

Bruce
http://www.internet-grocer.com

Response From Guest

yes this is possible, my friend just bought the kit for a thousand dollars off the internet, but i don't remember the web sit, but he said he paid it off after about 7 fill ups in his power stroke diesel

Response From Guest

This used motor oil plan is simply doesnt work all scam..I buyed the plan use try the build system they wrote the plan for NOONE CANT BUILD.careful..dont waste your money on sutupit think like me..

Response From Guest

is synthetic hydraulic oil usable in a 50/50 jetA / syn hydraulic oil is light and clean. in a VW TDI?

Response From Guest

Did you just add them undiluted? Please explain further.

Used Motor Oil
Transmission Fluid
Hydraulic Fluid
Dielectric Fluid
Mineral Oil

Response From Guest

50%

Response From Guest

I heard you have to add a small amount of lime to the cooking oil.

Lye, not lime. :)

http://www.basestationzero.com/

One CAN use straight veg oil if it's heated. Main problem there is the glycerin will clog filters, injectors and gummy oil. It's best to just refine veg oils as biodiesel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_fuels
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_fuel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable_oil_used_as_fuel

Response From Guest

for gods sake dont put lime in any part of your vehicle... its like dirt only far more abrasive and corrosive

Response From Guest

I have a 7.3 diesel ford and My run just fine on use motor oil.What I did is heat the use motor oil into a 30 gallon container.let it boil until it get to the point that you notice the seperation of the oil and You have to use your judgement.let get really hot.then filter it using the cloth and then filter it with feul filter the big filter can be purchase at tractor supply.Make sure you scoop out or seperat the dirt and the carbon first before filter it.After you have done filter the oil. Now you get a nice clean oil.Now mix your clean oil with diesel about say 35 to 40 percent oil and the rest is diesel.Then I would filter it again before put it to use.That save me lot of money buying a fuel at the pump.Do at your own risk!!I have done it more then 5 year now and never have problem with my truck.

Response From Guest

I am very curious as to what caused your IP failure. I can guarantee that it was not the ATF. I have many vehicles that I personally know now that have a lot more miles than that running almost straight ATF with no problems. ATF has nothing in it that will damage a IP (in fact it is the opposite ) if it did it would also ruin your transmission!

Response From Taurusgrl

You get better mileage out of it, but it's not good for the environment.

Response From Guest

The way to go guys,
About 30 years ago trucks were converted to very slowly add the hot engine oil to the fuel. A clean oil tank would keep the oil pan level constant, just change filters. No oil change.

Response From Guest

Emmissions systems are desinged to handle burning fuel not burning oil.

Is not diesel fuel a type of oil? Burning oil at 600f+ burns all residue. Read this from clean burns site on their waste oil burners. They do not even burn at the temp of a diesel combustion chamber and they are EPA friendly.http://www.cleanburn.com/advantage/environment.htm As far as passing emissions don't run it at the test if your worried(most diesel fuel doesn't pass).And as far as fuel filters I don't dump any kind of fuel in my tank without filtering it first. That is just common sense (duh)!
Most "tree huggers" freak out on this subject. And of course the big oil companies don't want you to do this either so they will tell you anything (without facts)to stop you from doing this. I am giving you facts. So while everybody keeps blowing smoke up everyone else's @ss, I'll be blowing my EPA friendly smoke out my tailpipe!

Response From Guest

just wondering if you had to do anything special to the system and if you use the veg. oil do you have to add anything to it or can you just filter it and run it

Response From Guest

Hello,
I am not too familar with sites like this one however I have been researching alternative fuels for diesel engines and your posting caught my eye. I have an F250 2000 yr and have considered all the alternatives you listed however have not had the nerve because of all the talk of conversion of the fuel systems etc. I would love to talk to you about your experiences. Please contact me at the e mail address yltnarb@hotmail.com. I appreciate any time you can spare.

Response From carjunky

Hmm, interesting site. I've heard of ways of doing something like this. Hear about people getting used cooking oils from mcdonalds and Chinese restaurants then filtering out the left over food, and running the vehicle on this oil.

Also did you notice their diesal price is per liter, at $2.00 a liter is quiet step.

I am leaning towards a modified hybrid. Heard a scientist has been building them since the 70's and one of which gets a staggering 250 mpg's..... Also another electrical engineer modified his Toyota pris. To get over 80 mpgs by adding more battery power. Looks like the hydrogen future is a decade or so away, but the hybrid plugins could be right around the corner.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Where I live used motor oil is burned to heat greenhouses! Some must go elsewhere but most of it gets used as heating fuel. It's mid August and only 56F outside right now!!!!! Come visit in January! With a smile from Tom