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1976 Dodge Monaco Drum Brake Shoe - Rear Bendix - Bendix Premium Brake Shoes

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SBS
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Replacing brake shoes can't find right size replacement?

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Question From ShyWillow on Replacing brake shoes can't find right size replacement?

We bought an old RV and are fixing it up. One of the many things needing fixed was brakes..we went and bought new brake shoes for our 1972 doge B20 tradesman rv. The shoes that auto zone told us we needed turned out to be to long. The brake shoes that came off have a 12 x 3 pad on a 15 inch shoe, the ones sold to us have a 16 inch shoe. We have since looked on several web sites and ran into problems finding anything about our RV. We went to Napa they didn't know what to do. We went to a Dodge dealer ship to see if we could get new parts, according to them their is no such model ever made by dodge....

Info from inside the door frame
Make Dodge
Model B20
Date of MFG 02 72
Vehicle Type TRUCK

I have had many problems looking this thing up as it is a motor home. Everything I find online is info for a van and no site I have seen lists shoe size.

The door has Tradesman 200 on it... I can upload pics and such as needed

I am not real sure what to do at this point, hopefully someone here can help.

Can someone find a part number for replacement brake shoes?



Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Response From Double J

I just found a motorhome parts catalog listed on Ebay

It says the chassis is an M300
Maybe this catalog will help you

Raybestos site for M300 shows same part #

Click for Ebay catalog

Click for Ebay owners manual

Hope some of this helps

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Double J - our age is showing!
Drum brake shoes where I am are no longer "re-lined" which was common not all that long ago. You could or can find a "rebuilder" that will re-line YOUR metal shoes or buy products to DIY it never done by me. Friction material (asbestos) once was sold by the roll to rivet on new linings. Current problem I think will be finding tools to DIY that now or what was clearly brass rivets.


Suggestion: If you can't find whole redone shoes or new absolutely keep your old ones and would pay any core deposit to have them.


Forget Autozone or similar places. NAPA should have been able to handle this and blew you off IMO.
Expect a hunt but you can get yours done or others ready to go.


Other idea: Have you looked for model year 1973 instead? Try that as that exact model year Chrysler as a company began selling chassis to take over the RV and custom frame biz,


T

Response From ShyWillow

Autozone part #358 has the same problem the metal part of the shoe is one inch longer than the one that came off of the motor home.

Going to go look into the other bits now and thanks for the info. ^^

Response From Tom Greenleaf

OK - Do your hunt. If all fails I'll plain call who can reline your own old ones if need be. I'll refrain from posting their phone # but is listed in biz, Automotive Brake Warehouse, Central St. Hudson, MA 01749.


They were suppliers to much of a huge area of New England mostly wholesale but do or did some custom stuff,
T

Response From ShyWillow

I think we worked out the problem. I brought the brake shoes inside and was comparing all the bolt patterns to the pictures and such of the brakes suggested here. None of them match up so I went to just looking at brake shoes on ebay for a dodge B20 1972.. and I found one that matched up in shape and wholes and even lil brass peg match. I was so happy until I seen it was an 11x 3 >.< but it got me to wondering the 12x 3 was an inch long. So I asked my dad who being a big rig mechanic for 40+years if maybe it was an 11x3. He hates all things to do with the internet.. He measured the shoe and told/showed me again it was a 12x3...

I ended up looking at the brake drums.. the inside diameter is 11 inch. So he looked at it closer and found stamped on it the size.. He thanked me. ^^

We are going tomorrow to Napa and hopefully getting the right shoe this time. ^^

Thanks everyone for your help and sorry for having the wrong info.. I don't know a whole lot about such things and when he said it was 12x3 I didn't have anything else to go off of.

I will let everyone know how it goes when we get it done. ^^

Response From Tom Greenleaf Top Rated Answer

OK I think? Seems your measuring came into play somehow. When you say 11,12 and then "X3" I take that as for the drum inside diameter that would be marked with its max diameter like when machined/turned.
If you were measuring the amount/length of lining on the metal shoe that should be a standard for the drum. More lining always goes to the rear shoe. This is too new for dual wheel cylinders where each would be the same amount of lining.


Gotcha on the punch in peg that I long forgot about. Redone brakes take those out and give you new ones or all I recall.
Said before keep your old "core" shoes till this definitely works out exactly right. I know it's old but this stuff is still out there in use on something maybe lots newer than this?


Seems like you are all set,


T

Response From ShyWillow

When my dad measured he took a tape measure and bent it around the pad on the brake shoe to get 12 and across it is 3 and told me it's 12 x 3. I looked up several measurement methods for determining size of shoe, most show it as inside diameter of brake drum and depth. A few of them suggest on most brake drums is stamped the inside diameter. The brake shoes I found where everything matched was WAGNER-PAB336 witch are for a 1972 dodge B200 Van Sportsman. I don't know if that's the right ones or not.. It just got me to thinking the whole 12x3 might not be right so I had to ask and after his grumpy you don't know anything I have done this for longer than you have been alive and internet can't help you do anything speech. I wonted to double check his way of finding the size. None of the things I found showed doing it like he did. We aren't getting the shoes off of ebay as they are for a van/sportsman instead of a truck tradesman.. Though if Napa, auto-zone, or other such places can't help him this time with the 11x3 I might get them.

He has already told me he will be keeping the cores. Old parts get harder and harder to find. I am going to have him take the brake drum and shoes with him this time.

Oh this is also a front driver side we have taken apart.

Response From Tom Greenleaf

? You need to measure the inside of the drum where shoes contact even with a ruler or tape measure - that's the drum size. Like this sample (not yours) done in mm....
/


With drum off place a new show inside and it should just about match up with the arc of shoe and inside of drum even with some wear look real close. If a drum was ONE inch larger it would be wildly obvious shoe(s) aren't correct.


Don't be measuring just the amount of lining on the shoes. I said rear will have more friction material than the front on purpose. Who decided how much for each isn't my call if that part is right for the vehicle. One inch now talking length I don't even bother for most just know that they are correct or not.


Samples pics of common drum brakes even this old...........
/
See the top shoe in this pic the length of lining this one riveted to the metal shoe is longer on the right side of that pic meaning those go to the rear of the vehicle + the ones shown left side go to the front.


You have to know some basics of this or you'll get in trouble. New hardware is always suggested - hold down springs and return springs. Left and right wheels are "asymmetrically" opposite meaning like your hands are a mirror image of each other.


This is primal and crude as brakes go but put on wrong will self destruct with broken springs or who knows if AFUed. You have to also know parking brake cable is free and returns/extends out fully or you are out of your league doing this job but can get parts.
I can't think of any wild special tools for any for this except common brake spring pliers and hold-down tool like a round ended screwdriver. Park cable can be a fight to get on arms + there's a tool for that or work with pliers carefully.


Can't let you mess this up even finding parts you have to know what I just said to measure drum. Shoes should match old ones also a reason to keep them to match up.


If in doubt doing this please get help it isn't that hard as things go but anything can be messed up and this is brakes so no room for mistakes!


T

Response From Double J

I looked up on Wagner and Raybestos websites
Had to look under 1972 D200 pickup

Found several 12x3 shoes

Wagner part # Z358 AR Front and Rears

Raybestos Part # 314 PG or 314 SG Front and Rears

Autozone and OReilly both showed a part # 358 for 12x3 shoes as well

Don't know if that's what you have or what they gave you already

2000 Stratus brake shoe over-tightens

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Question From jbojay on 2000 Stratus brake shoe over-tightens

The drum-style brake on the right rear wheel of my 2000 Dodge Stratus recently developed a nasty problem: the self-adjusting mechanism eventually over-tightens the shoe against the drum, causing heat-up, noise and general overall misery. I had my mechanic (who has 30+ years experience) examine it and he failed to identify or correct the issue. The shoes were worn somewhat low so he installed new ones (and I think the whole brake kit), but that didn't ease the problem. It's only happening on the one wheel. The drum seems fine, but I don't know that with any real precision. The shoe rivets have never even come close to scoring the drum, but I suppose there might be an out-of-round issue. Should I just replace that drum and hope? What should I tell the mechanic to look for next time he works on it? The vehicle has 92000 miles. Many thanks!

Response From Hammer Time

Does it loosen itself up but just being parked for a while?

Response From jbojay

Does it loosen itself up by just being parked for a while?
No. I read the other thread cited by DS. What I liked best was the suggestion of disabling the auto adjust function altogether.

I rarely use my emergency brake. That's definitely worth double checking. But I suspect the auto adjust is the culprit for two reasons. Once, the wheel started making its typical troubled slight noise right after I backed out of a parking space. Also because the over-tightening always seems kinda mild -- enough to cause some noise and some drag and plenty of excess heat but not enough to lock up the wheel or anything. And if I recall, my mechanic originally corrected the issue (for a spell) by manually loosening the adjustment.

I'll consider all I've read here and return to the mechanic this week and discuss all the suggestions. I rather doubt that a reversed star wheel is the problem because no one had monkeyed with the brakes prior to the problem beginning about 3 months ago. I'm hoping this mechanic of mine will have an answer but if not, he's honest enough to refer me elsewhere, like the dealership, if need be.

Response From Hammer Time

So you are saying that you have brought it in to have the adjustment backed off after every time you drove it?

Response From jbojay

So you are saying that you have brought it in to have the adjustment backed off after every time you drove it?
No of course not. The problem is hardly noticeable for days/weeks at a time and then I hear the slight noise (from that troubled right rear) or feel what seems like some small power loss. After a drive when that happens, I then feel to compare the heat build-up on that and the other rear wheel. When there's a marked difference, only then do I realize for sure that the adjustment has tightened up on me again. It's kinda subtle but it's a real problem and the last thing I want is excessive heat! Fortunately I've been driving only short around-town trips of late.

Response From Hammer Time

feel what seems like some small power loss. After a drive when that happens, I then feel to compare the heat build-up on that and the other rear wheel. When there's a marked difference, only then do I realize for sure that the adjustment has tightened up on me again.

So at that point the car is no longer drivable. Now if you had to take it to the shop immediately to have the adjustment backed off, then you may have an adjustment problem but if you started driving it again later and the symptoms were diminished, then it is correcting itself.



My guess is that you have a bad flex hose at that wheel restricting the fluid return and it eventually returns.

Response From jbojay

So at that point the car is no longer drivable. Now if you had to take it to the shop immediately to have the adjustment backed off, then you may have an adjustment problem but if you started driving it again later and the symptoms were diminished, then it is correcting itself.

My guess is that you have a bad flex hose at that wheel restricting the fluid return and it eventually returns.
Yes I do see your point clearly now, finally. If the problem isn't diminishing while the car is parked then the whole right rear assembly would be a disaster area in short order. So that could indicate a damaged flex hose that slowly allows fluid to bleed back. I spoke with the mechanic this morning and he'll take it in his shop tomorrow for another look-see. But he pointed out that most cars of that genre have metal lines coming from a center split off, and metal lines generally don't degrade like the flex lines can. Maybe my car is different and has flex lines to each rear wheel; we'll know tomorrow.

Another thought of mine now is this: there's been so much excess heat going on that maybe the drum has become warped and needs replacing. When the brakes are making their characteristic slight dragging noise it's always rhythmic (like ch-ch-ch-ch...). So that perhaps indicates an out-of-round condition. Maybe the problem gets bad when I back up and the self-adjust mechanism goes to the drum's low area. After that it would drag against the high areas.

Thanks again for your keen insights! Hopefully this gets resolved tomorrow, Dec. 4th.

Response From Hammer Time

He's talking about old rear wheel drive cars. There as to be flex for the wheel to go up and down.

Response From jbojay

He's talking about old rear wheel drive cars. There has to be flex for the wheel to go up and down.
Totally weird that he'd make a bonehead mistake like that. I'll say something when I see him. I still have confidence in his deep experience and he's never done me wrong before. Yikes. His rates are oh so benign.

Okay, so maybe it's one degraded flex line to blame. Yeah, I hope it's gonna be easy like that. I'll keep you all posted here. Again, my thanks!

Response From jbojay

'Got it back from the mechanic just now. $30 for a new drum and $20 labor. He showed me where the old drum was badly scored, not where the shoe material goes against the drum but off to the side, on the ridge just up from the wheel bolting pattern. The metal isn't real thick where the bolting pattern is. Something had warped it and I guess it was dragging against the side of the shoes (or against something else in the assembly). Mechanic said he (somehow?) checked the flex line to that wheel and determined it was A-Ok. And truly, nothing can really go wrong with those self-adjust mechanisms.

We touched on metal versus flex lines and I'm thinking he made no mistake in our earlier chat. It's complicated and he and I don't always communicate to 100% perfection. He had said all along that some cars are arranged differently. I dunno, it's no biggie anyway.

Many thanks for the help here!

Response From Hammer Time

Yes, some cars are arranged differently. Some have a single hose to a solid (RWD) axle and some have two, one to each wheel. The rear suspension goes up and down so it absolutely cannot be only solid steel. There is rubber hose between the axle and the body on every vehicle. He can easily test the flow and releasing though.

Response From jbojay

As I stated in my previous post http://autoforums.carjunky.com/cgi-bin/gforum.cgi?post=131716#131716] no, the problem doesn't seem to ease up while the car is parked. But maybe. I'll be sure to determine that with absolute certainty before I proceed. The car is not really undriveable after the problem occurs, though I sure wouldn't take it on any long trip! As I said, the trouble is subtle and hard to sense: real slight rhythmic noises and real slight drag. Not to worry ...I'll be sure to post here again when the problem is finally resolved. Then we'll all be in the know. I've got plenty of ideas from you and this forum, THANKS.

Note: the problem seems so mild while driving the car. Cars are real heavy and slight drag isn't so noticeable. But the first time I brought the problem to the mechanic, after he removed the wheel the drum was too hot to even touch, and after it cooled you couldn't even turn the hub by hand! I had only driven about 5 miles beforehand if I recall.

Response From Hammer Time

If a brake is dragging enough to give any drag whatsoever to vehicle power, the shoes will be smoked off in about 10 miles. It will also tighten up even more and probably get stuck when it cools off so there are things you are saying that are not adding up about the symptoms.

Response From jbojay

Well, tomorrow is Monday and I'll see if I can get the mechanic I know to get a sudden brainstorm or somethin'

Nasty problem, that's for dang sure

Response From Tom Greenleaf

Quote from top post on this: ">>What should I tell the mechanic to look for next time he works on it?"

NO. If you ask for a new windshield to fix this that's what you'll get kind of thing. Let the mechanic and or shop know what is happening and history of what was done. In turn let them make the diagnosis and suggested repair. IMO it's perfectly reasonable to ask for an explanation (to a point) as to what is wrong, what will fix it and for how much.

Communicate the problem. Let them do what they do. If it happens again in the same manner IMO the issue is on them for the most part,

T

Response From Discretesignals Top Rated Answer

Check out this thread:

http://autoforums.carjunky.com/Automotive_Repair_C1/General_Discussions_F5/2000_Stratus_brake_shoe_over-tightens_P131698/gforum.cgi?post=130001;t=search_engine#130001