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kevin
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12/03/2004
18:36:43
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just replaced the starter on my '87 nissan sentra but like a dummy can't remmber which cable goes to which post on the solenoid. what will happen if i put them on worng? i think i got it right but as is the car doesn't start though i do hear a sort of whirring noise. any ideas or suggestions?
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Tom Greenleaf
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12/04/2004
09:45:35
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Kevin - hard to put wires on wrong on most things. There is a failure rate for even rebuilt starter motors, you might have a bad new one and probably do. It's a "starter Drive" that can make it just hmmmm. It stinks but it's easier the second time around, to change it out again. Good luck, Tom Greenleaf
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kevin
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12/05/2004
05:16:49
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Tom, thanks for your quick response.
would the starter make this continuous noise (continuous as long as the key is held in the start position) but not crank the engine if the engine was seized? or would i hear or experience something different, specifically from the starter?? thanks for your assistance.
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Tom Greenleaf
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12/05/2004
09:18:20
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Hi Kevin - no the starter with a seized engine would just make a solid "click". Unfortunately I've seen that!
The starter drive is part of the starter motor. It is there so if you try to start a running engine it probabably won't self destruct. When they fail you just get the humming sound. If you really suspect a seized engine, just see what you can do to turn it by hand. If it will turn it's not done yet. Good luck, Tom Greenleaf
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joe
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1/05/2005
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hi need some help been to the garage many times has new battery alternator been tested charging good. but gauge in truck reads it charging high. testted the power being taken from electronic stuff.so we disconnected the dome light and the radio casstte.after about a week sitting there nnow being started battery was discharged any idea where the electronic problem is? thank-you
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Tom Greenleaf
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1/05/2005
06:54:22
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A voltage drain can be found! Disconnect your hood light and a battery cable. Connect a volt meter between cable and battery - it should be zero. If not - pull fuses out one at a time and breakers till it reads zero. That will at least tell you the circuit that's trouble. I've seen trunk lights that won't go out too - bulb out or disconnected should fix that. Good luck, Tom Greenleaf
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Kim
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1/27/2005
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I have a 99 Astro van and my problem is similar. The problems started yesterday when I placed the van in park the started kicked in. Now when I try to start the van in park the starter will not disengage and continues to run. However, if I start the van in nuetral the started will disengage as it is supposed too. I have replaced the started and the problem remains. What could be the problem.
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Tom Greenleaf
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1/27/2005
02:37:20
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If I understand you correctly - the starter is staying "ON" even when you let go of the key, and stays in Start mode when in Park even when you let go of the key?
If that's what you meant that's strange that Neutral and Park make any difference.
FIRST - don't let the starter stay engaged with engine running. You'll have lots more problems to deal with later.
I've seen starters do that but NOT different whether in N or P? Must be a problem with wiring with the ignition switch and neutral safety switch.
Are there any aftermarket installed items like a remote starter to complicate the diagnosis here?
If you can safely - hold brake and have plenty of room in front of you and ready to shut off veh, see if the veh starts in "D". If it does - run don't walk to get that fixed.
I wish I could see this veh in front of me and there is a GM expert at this site that may be able to shed some light on this different problem. At least like I said - don't let it stay engaged. Shut if off!
I'll try to find his/her user name and post it next. Be safe and good luck with this, Tom Greenleaf
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Tom Greenleaf
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1/27/2005
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Kim - have tried to contact a person to make a post here for you under user name "lab" as logged. Hope you get some good answers soon, Tom
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Kim
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1/27/2005
11:12:07
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Tom: Thanks for the advice, but no I have not a I am a rookie at this site. I will try this next. I think the problem is in either the neutral safety switch or the ignition switch. There are no after market products added to this vehicle. It all began when the van was placed into park and the starter engaged. I have replaced the starter now, I can safely start the van in neutral and the starter operates properly. If I try starting it in park the starter stays engaged.
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mack1
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1/28/2005
20:29:50
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Thanks for the info. I changed my nuetral safety switch and everything is working great. You probably saved me hundreds of dollars as I visited a couple of repair shops and they had no idea what the problem could be. I think they saw dollar signs.
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Tony
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1/31/2005
18:02:06
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I'm have a starting problem '94 Aerostar. The starter did not disengage when started in very cold weather until started over & over again. Finally there was nothing at all when trying to start. The starter was replaced with another rebuilt and it worked great for that day. The problem started again next morning with starter failing to disengage. After it disengaged the vehicle would not start at next startup , vehicle does nothing only click from solenoid. the battery is new and I now installed a new solenoid but still nothing. Please help because it seems mechanic is grasping at straws.
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Tony
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1/31/2005
18:29:44
| '94 Aerostar starting problem
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I'm have a starting problem '94 Aerostar. The starter did not disengage when started in very cold weather until started over & over again. Finally there was nothing at all when trying to start. The starter was replaced with another rebuilt and it worked great for that day. The problem started again next morning with starter failing to disengage. After it disengaged the vehicle would not start at next startup , vehicle does nothing only click from solenoid. the battery is new and I now installed a new solenoid but still nothing. Please help because it seems mechanic is grasping at straws.
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Tom Greenleaf
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1/31/2005
18:55:12
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There are sometimes shims needed to keep a starter at correct distance from "fly wheel" it's actually called ring gear in an automatic. There is a failure rate for even new or rebuilt starters and I think that's possibly your trouble.
Chances of the exact same sysmtoms defy odds. Something like shims are needed would be by guess.
A starter that won't disengage will destroy something and hopefully only the starter! For now, try a tap with a hammer on the body of the starter motor for one last try.
Did a shop replace this for you?
Also a possibly fault is the ignition. Does it spring back to just "Run" from the start position. Ford kind of has troubles with those things of several models. Good luck, Post back with your answer so we all know when it happens to someone else, Tom Greenleaf
PS: Starter will be under warrantee
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Tony
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2/01/2005
00:36:42
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The shop that installed the starter checked and they said that shims were not used on this starter.(do you know otherwise) I tried tapping starter earlier today but it did not help. As for the ignition it does spring back freely. Is it possible the ignition switch is faulty? Is there a test for this without actual trial & error method of replacing it? Also can faulty solenoids cause a starter to not disengage? I have replaced it but I haven't had the vehicle running to test if it was the problem all along. Is it possible the last installed starter burn out quickly when it would not disengage.(old solenoid was still in at that time) I was told to touch both terminals(keeping wire on S terminal) on solenoid at once to see if it affected the starter, which it did not.(does this mean the starter is faulty?) Do Aerostars have fuses under hood that would keep it from starting?, like some other Ford products.
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Tony
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2/01/2005
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Forgot to mention there is an after market auto start on the Aerostar, but I have set the switch to off, without any affect.
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Tom Greenleaf
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2/01/2005
03:38:13
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With info you just provided, I would guess the ignition/key switch is the trouble. Parts when new - and I like Ford products are all out sourced and many are not dependable. So much for progress.
It ticks me off as cars are no where near free! If Ford (and it may) go out of biz so what? Henry Ford Was NOT!!!!!! a nice person, just clever.
Check for recalls on your car. Good luck, Tom Greenleaf
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Anonymous
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2/11/2005
03:20:04
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1989 camoro starter want say nothing when it get hot
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Tom Greenleaf
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2/11/2005
04:19:54
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Check that the 12V gets to solonoid and if it passes on to starter - two people best (easiest) for this test. May just need a new starter, Good luck Tom Greenleaf
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jeff
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2/15/2005
23:11:09
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Please help. when ever My girlfriends 93 aerostar sits for a few days it fails to start. Shop checked it out by putting a load on the battery, checking the starter, alternator, but the battery dies after being charged. Could the battery be at fault? Maybe a bad cell? Running out of ideas. any assistance would be appreciated.
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scott
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2/16/2005
00:38:59
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Please help...how do I know if the problem is with the starter or the solenoid? I turn the key 3 or 4 (or more) times, car powers up but it won't crank--just one click. Then after a few tries it cranks and turns over. It seems not to be as bad after the car has been running for a bit, and the problem went away when it was very cold here (wisconsin) for a month. Now it's back.
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Tom Greenleaf
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2/16/2005
08:46:29
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That's almost certainly a connection problem - at the battery or starter - or even a poor ground connection. Good luck, Tom Greenleaf
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steve
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2/24/2005
11:34:00
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hi. i just installed a new starter on my 92 safri van. when i hook up the battery cable the starter spins with the key off? help
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MASHAWNDA
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2/25/2005
21:50:31
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HI. I WAS TOLD THAT I NEED A TIME CHANGE ON MY 1997 NISSAN SENTRA. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND HOW MUCH DOES IT USUALLY COST TO GET FIXED.
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Cindy
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3/02/2005
19:03:20
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Have to get a jump everytime to start the van
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Lindle Stewart
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3/12/2005
20:42:37
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I have a 1985 Ford Pick up F150 6 cyl 300
engine. I have put a rebuilt starter on and
it will not disengage. I tried disconnecting the
hot wire to the starter and it still will not
disengage. Any suggestions. Thanks
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Lindle Stewart
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3/12/2005
20:45:08
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I have a 1985 Ford Pick up F150 6 cyl 300
engine. I have put a rebuilt starter on and
it will not disengage. I tried disconnecting the
hot wire to the starter and it still will not
disengage. Any suggestions. Thanks
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Mike B
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3/23/2005
20:16:54
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86 ford ranger 4 cyl - it has been running fine, then one afternoon the starter would not disengage even when I turned the ignition off - the engine would turn off, but the starter kept turning over. I ended up disconnecting the battery cable.
When I would put the battery cable back on, the starter engages (key is out of the ignition).
I have checked to make sure no wires to the starter were grounded. Can it be the solenoid is stuck closed? I was planning on replacing the starter - any other suggestions?
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TN_N
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4/13/2005
16:57:02
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'93 Astro Ext, 140K miles. Makes a grinding noise at startup and will not turn over. Took starter off and had it bench checked, it is fine. Battery checks strong on charger guage. We have replaced the flywheel on the trans once already, about 5 years ago. Like a dummy my 16yo grease monkey can't remember which wire goes where on starter to put it back on the car! HELP!
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matt
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4/19/2005
23:31:21
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i have a 1976 plymouth duster and i can't figure out how to get to the ignition switch. the engine only fires as you let off the key and i think the rod is out of adjustment but can't get to it
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matt
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4/19/2005
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i have a 1976 plymouth duster and i can't figure out how to get to the ignition switch. the engine only fires as you let off the key and i think the rod is out of adjustment but can't get to it
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matt
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4/19/2005
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i have a 1976 plymouth duster and i can't figure out how to get to the ignition switch. the engine only fires as you let off the key and i think the rod is out of adjustment but can't get to it
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Mark
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4/27/2005
16:14:39
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I have 1985 Ford Van V-8 460 7.5L
Van starts when key is turned. Gas apparantly shuts off after the key is released, once gas burns out of the carb, the engine dies from lack of gas. Gas pump appears to be working. Seems to be a problem somewhere in the turning of the key and releasing which interupts the gas flow connection. Any ideas appreciated.
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Mark
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4/27/2005
16:14:55
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I have 1985 Ford Van V-8 460 7.5L
Van starts when key is turned. Gas apparantly shuts off after the key is released, once gas burns out of the carb, the engine dies from lack of gas. Gas pump appears to be working. Seems to be a problem somewhere in the turning of the key and releasing which interupts the gas flow connection. Any ideas appreciated.
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chad
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5/11/2005
04:19:41
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92 ford ranger i have replaced 4 starters in the past 6 months. what keeps fring my starter
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chad
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5/11/2005
04:19:46
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92 ford ranger i have replaced 4 starters in the past 6 months. what keeps fring my starter
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Teana
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5/25/2005
18:57:46
| RE: starter problemI have 1985 Ford Van V-8 460 7.
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Have you fixed your starter/fuel problem yet?
If you have not changed the fuel filter, try it first because it is inexpensive. If that does not work, check the float in your carburator. Your float maybe sticking and not letting the fuel get into the carb. Always ask your local parts dealer about info. I hope that this info has helped you.
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Rob
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6/10/2005
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Problems starting my 85 Jeep CJ7. It makes a grinding/whirring noise when key is turned. Noise lasts as long as key is in start position. The engine doen't turn just the noise. Also fuel is not getting pumped into the carburetor got a new fuel pump and filter and checked all lines but all are unclogged.
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Rob
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6/10/2005
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Problems starting my 85 Jeep CJ7. It makes a grinding/whirring noise when key is turned. Noise lasts as long as key is in start position. The engine doen't turn just the noise. Also fuel is not getting pumped into the carburetor got a new fuel pump and filter and checked all lines but all are unclogged.
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Brent
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6/16/2005
15:32:59
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I have a 2000 ford ext cab pick up, It has power window controls for both drivers and passengers side windows on the drivers door. Niether works at the time being, I know my widow motors are good and all fuses are good , but i still cant get thm to work . Any suggestions please>
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Mike
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7/10/2005
15:06:15
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I hve 96 astro van the other night I went to start it and it would not turn over.Plenty of juice in battery and juice to the starter.All gauges would come on but when u turned the key nothing.This morning i went out and it started right up.Could it be a starter solinoid gettig hot or ignition switch.No funny sounds coming from starter. Thanks,Mike
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Mike
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7/10/2005
15:06:36
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I hve 96 astro van the other night I went to start it and it would not turn over.Plenty of juice in battery and juice to the starter.All gauges would come on but when u turned the key nothing.This morning i went out and it started right up.Could it be a starter solinoid gettig hot or ignition switch.No funny sounds coming from starter. Thanks,Mike
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